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If you’ve ever wished for a deeper, richer connection with your partner, this conversation will feel like a breath of fresh air. Today, I sit down with the incredible Alison Armstrong — a true pioneer in understanding men, women, and the dance between the two. For over three decades, Alison has devoted herself to decoding human behavior and helping couples create the kind of intimacy that lasts a lifetime.

In this heartfelt episode, Alison pulls back the curtain on what men and women really need from each other — and why so many of us get it wrong. Her insights are simple yet revolutionary. They’ll help you shift out of frustration and confusion, and step into love, compassion, and partnership that truly nourishes both of you. 

Get ready to upgrade your love!

About Alison Armstrong

Alison Armstrong is an author, speaker, and educator whose work has transformed the lives of countless individuals and couples worldwide. She’s best known for her “Understanding Men” workshops and her groundbreaking books, which explore the fundamental differences between men and women in ways that foster compassion and connection. With humor, depth, and a gift for storytelling, Alison gives us the tools to create relationships filled with love, respect, and joy.

In this episode we chat about:

• Alison’s own path into this work, and the unexpected turning point that changed everything (3:12)
• How to really understand your husband (or partner) so you can build a relationship that feels deeply supportive (7:45)
• The biggest misconception women carry about men — and the truth that can open the door to more intimacy and love (14:22)
• What to do when both partners feel like they’re holding back, and how to reignite generosity in your relationship (21:22)
• Why keeping a current “energy tank” list is vital — and how to update it as you evolve (27:08)
• The most loving way to share that list with your partner, so it draws you closer instead of pushing you apart (33:16)
• How being a role model impacts our children more than anything we say (37:47)
• The hidden reason men often come home with nothing left to give — and what’s really happening inside (39:37)
• A gentle reframe for those tender postpartum seasons when you feel like you’re running on empty (44:42)
• Alison’s calming reflex technique — a simple practice that can soothe both body and mind (48:36)
• The one book she wishes every school teenager could read (50:56)
• Alison’s daily rituals and the practices that keep her grounded and connected (53:00)

Episode resources:

• Mastering Your Mean Girl by Melissa Ambrosini (book)
• Open Wide by Melissa Ambrosini (book)
• Comparisonitis by Melissa Ambrosini (book)
• Time Magic by Melissa Ambrosini and Nick Broadhurst (book)
• Alison Armstrong (website)
• Alison Armstrong (Instagram)
• The Queen’s Code by Alison A. Armstrong (book)
• Understanding Women: Unlock the Mystery by Alison A. Armstrong (audiobook)
• Making Sense of Men by Alison A. Armstrong (book)
• Keys to the Kingdom by Alison A. Armstrong (book)
• The Power of When by Dr. Michael Breus (book)
• Chronotype quiz (website)
• The Happiest Baby on the Block By Dr. Harvey Karp (book)
• The Five S’s to Soothe Your Baby (Youtube)
• The Erotic Blueprint Quiz (website)
• Uncover Your Erotic Blueprint With Miss Jaiya (podcast)
• The Millionaire Next Door by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko (book)
• Chemistry and Connection (Youtube)

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Melissa: [00:00:00] The Melissa Ambrosini Show. Welcome to the Melissa Ambrosini Show. I’m your host, Melissa bestselling author of Mastering Your Mean Girl, open, wide, comparisonitis and Time Magic, and I’m here to remind you that love is sexy, healthy is liberating, and wealthy isn’t a dirty word. Each week I’ll be getting up close and personal with thought leaders from around the globe, as well as your weekly dose of motivation so that you can create epic change in your own life and become the best version of yourself possible.

Are you ready? Beautiful. Hey, beautiful. Welcome back to the show. I’m so excited about this episode because I have wanted to have Allison on the show for so long. And it is here, and I do have to let you know that the audio quality on Allison’s end is not the best. But this conversation was so good that I just had to share it with you, so bear with us.

[00:01:00] Now, for those of you that have never heard of Allison, her exploration of human behavior began in 1991 with the decision to find out what brings out the best and worst in men. Now, this naturally led to studying women’s behavior and making vital connections between the two. Now, while fulfilling our need to understand why people behave as they do, Allison offers practical partnership based alternatives to what we’re instinctively compelled to do.

And she is dedicated to helping people access a more fulfilling life loving relationships, stronger families and productive organizations. She does live events. She has online curriculums, books, webinar. So many free offerings, and it’s all available@allisonarmstrong.com. She’s essentially like a relationship guru, and if you have not listened to any of her audios or read any of her books, do yourself a favor and dive in if you want a better [00:02:00] relationship.

This is essential listening, and for everything that we mention in today’s episode, you can check out in the show notes, and that’s over@melissaambrosini.com slash 6 6 9. Now without further ado, let’s bring on the incredible Alison Armstrong.

Alison, welcome to the show. I am so excited to have you here. But before we dive in, can you tell us what you had for breakfast this morning? 

Alison: Let’s see. Sauteed baby Bella mushrooms. Greens and because they’re having an egg shortage here in the US they’re already, we’re all mixed up. Right. Like, so it ended up being scrambled eggs.

’cause I, I just had to pour some of it in. And then gluten-free sourdough toast and apricot raspberry preserves. 

Melissa: Wow. Oh, 

Alison: and coffee [00:03:00] with dark chocolate collagen in it. 

Melissa: Wow. Okay. That all sounds awesome. I’m seriously like, wow, it feels like a lot of love has gone into that meal. So thank you for sharing. Now, like I mentioned, I’m so excited to have you here.

Can you tell us how you got into this work? Like how did this all unfold for you? 

Alison: Oh my gosh. Have 

Melissa: you read or listened to the Queen’s code? I haven’t done the Queen’s code, but I’ve done understanding women and I was just re-listening to it this morning. And I was laughing so much when you were talking about how the pillow talks to us and says, straighten us, and we’ll dive deeper into that.

But I was just laughing as I was getting ready for this interview, re-listening to it, and I’m so excited to chat to you about it. That’s funny. Well, 

Alison: I asked about the Queen’s code because it’s fiction and what happens to one of the main characters. In the beginning of the book happened to me [00:04:00] where I was, I’ve been married, I was divorced, I had or about to be divorced.

I had a young son and I was in a seminar, a personal growth seminar, and my colleague challenged the man who is leading the seminar with Why is it that men are wonderful in the beginning? They take you to romantic places and give you romantic gifts and listen to you talk about your family and your pets as if they care.

And then after a few weeks or a few months, they turn into sports, watching beer, belching pizza, eating couch slugs. Why is that? Tell us. And his response was to tell her that she’s a frog farmer. And when she finally vaed to ask him what a frog farmer is, he said [00:05:00] Some women turned frogs into princes. You my dear, turned princess into frogs.

Melissa: Interesting. 

Alison: Yes. The women, there were about 200 people there. The women gasped. The men had crossed their legs. As soon as she made her assault, he kind of shrugged like, there’s nothing I can do about it. When he turned around, she stuck her tongue out at him. You know, very, very evolved response. And I sat there stunned as my life was before me.

And I, I knew it was true. I, that there are all these men, I so many men, they were so wonderful in the beginning and then I couldn’t stand who they were. And I loved that to find out that I may have something to do with it, that I could be bringing out the worst in them. And I was so happy because the [00:06:00] alternative was that men were as horrible as they thought they were.

Now, if they were just like dogs, that when you kick them, they might bite you or they might run away, or they might bite you and then run away. Sounds like a lot of relationships. Like they, I could stop kicking them if I just could find out how I was kicking them. Because this was February of 1991 and I was so normal.

I did what my mother showed me how to do in managing her three husbands. I getting and losing them. And I did what they did in sitcoms. I mean, I was just normal. And, but this question popped into my head, what if men are responding to women? And I decided to ask that question and inquire into it and find out are they responding to women?

And if they are, what are they responding to? And that was the beginning. And I thought, [00:07:00] honestly, I thought it would take two to three months to learn everything worth knowing about the shallow emotionally, like absence of feelings. I didn’t think they had any feelings at all. I wouldn’t have the terms we have now.

I questioned if they had souls. I knew there were lesser humans than women. Yeah. I, I didn’t realize how afraid I was of them, how angry I was at them, and that I even sometimes hated them. I didn’t know that until I started delving into it. 

Melissa: Mm wow. Okay. And so you’ve been since then on a pursuit to understand men, which I just love now.

I’ve been married for almost 11 years together, 11 and a half years. We got engaged and married very quickly and I’m always wanting to be [00:08:00] better in my relationship. Like I’m in this, the grass is not greener on the other side. Like I’m in it and I’m here. And so I wanna know how can I understand my husband more to have a deeper.

Rich, nourishing relationship because something that you said, and I’ve actually said this to my husband at one point, I think we bring out the worst in each other. This was years ago when those words came out of my mouth, I was like, that’s not how it’s meant to be. Like you meant to bring out the best in each other.

You are meant to be each other’s biggest cheerleaders and support each other. So tell us how we can understand men better so that we can have deeper, more rich, fulfilling relationships. 

Alison: Sure. Well, I mean, I can spend, I. I’ve spent hundreds of hours on this. Like in our online curriculum, [00:09:00] we have understanding men, understanding women, understanding sex and intimacy, understanding love of commitment, being extraordinary as a woman, being extraordinary as a man.

I encourage women to watch the being extraordinary as a man course to find out how much men struggle with who they are and what they need and their fear of asking for it, and their really messed up relationship with receiving, which is just a little more messed up than ours. And, but it starts with, and if somebody wants to delve into this, the best place would be the Queen’s coat.

And because the Queen Code illuminates why we can’t see who men are and why we, how we bring out the worst in them and why we think it should work, but it doesn’t. And then when it doesn’t work. The blowback on ourselves in terms of what’s wrong with me. That this man doesn’t love me enough to act right [00:10:00] or care about me enough to do what any human would do or respect me enough to do what obviously ought to be done.

And and it distinguishes the spiral we get in where we think if a man felt the right way about us, he would act the right way. And that could be true, except for the right way is what a woman would’ve done the right way is what I would’ve done. And we don’t understand that. How we bring out the worst in each other is we literally have opposing instincts.

Opposing instincts. So opposite sexes, opposing instincts. One way to think of that is that. Safety and security. Without safety and security, we’re, we’re always gonna bring out the worst in each other. [00:11:00] Fear brings out the worst in each other. Okay. And the way that we approach feeling safe disrupts their approach to being secure and their approach to being secure leaves us unsafe.

Like how they experience being secure is by being productive. So focused, productive, produce results, produce results. They don’t realize that as soon as they commit to result, their mind screens out everything considered irrelevant to the result, which includes their girlfriend’s voice, their wife’s voice.

Anything that she says she needs that doesn’t make sense to him must be irrelevant. So it’s not that they intend to be inconsiderate. They care [00:12:00] so much about us having what we need, but they project onto us that we need what they need. So, for example, when most men are upset, what they want is to be left alone.

They’ll go away, calm themselves down, get centered, figure out what’s true and not true. What was an overreaction, what really mattered, what’s at the heart of this? And then come back. So when we’re upset, they leave us alone thinking we’re gonna be doing that. Not knowing as we talk about in understanding women, that we may have gotten our feelings hurt and we’re now in the grips of the rage monster, which is preparing an attack to demolish the person that hurt us.

And, and we’re, it’s out of our control. We don’t even wanna see these things, but, but we’ve just been left adrift and why didn’t you come save me from this horrible monster? Why did you leave me alone with these [00:13:00] thoughts? But they don’t know that. And vice versa. When they’re upset, we like pet them. Like so wanna soothe them.

And they go, ah, and then that hurts our feelings. We dunno. They went, ah, because when they’re upset, the epinephrine in their body makes their skin so sensitive that touching them feels like a burn. Just like our feelings have been hurt. The epinephrine in our body makes our skin so sensitive that they touch us.

Even like ankle bones touching. My husband was trying to reconnect his ankle bone, was touching my ankle bone, and I was getting into a bigger and bigger rage because it hurt and I would move and he would keep coming after like just say the magic words. And they don’t know that the magic words work [00:14:00] because they’re illogical and they’re not true.

So how can they possibly work so well? And the magic words are, I’m sorry. I 

Melissa: love you. I’m sorry I hurt your feelings. Beautiful. When you say it, it seems so simple. And I’m like, of course. And yet we forget. So I wanna know what is the biggest misconception that we have about men? And what do we need to understand to create deeper and more fulfilling relationships with them?

Like I want to understand my husband so deeply and you know, we’ve done a lot of work. And he’ll say to me when he’s hurt, when he’s upset, he says, babe, I’m in the cave. And when he says that, I know to leave him alone. I know he needs half a day or a couple of hours and then he’ll come out of the cave.

But before he would say that to me and we didn’t have that language, I would take it [00:15:00] personally. I would get really upset. I would sit with the rage monster in my head. So now that we have that language, it’s really helped us. But I wanna know, what are some of, or what is the biggest misconception about men out there?

Alison: Aye, yay yi. There are so many of them. The myth of men being non-committal. They’re exactly the opposite. They are so committal that they’re very careful in their commitments. We found 12 things that make a woman the right person for a man to marry 12, and none of them is. He loves her. Men need things to be very simple and concise and direct, and especially what is it that you need?

What would it look like and what difference would it make in your life? Instead, we give them the 10 [00:16:00] year history of everything we’ve done for them. So we’re entitled that they do this for us or the way all the ways that we’ve been hurt, and that’s why we have this trauma and that’s why we need them to do this special thing that is not move them into action at all.

They’re impact oriented. What difference will it make? How much will it matter to you? How much will you appreciate that? But we don’t tell any of these things and it’s, and it’s not ’cause we’re stupid or wrong. And how come this stuff is hard to remember is because it’s counter instinctual. We have an instinct to conceal what we need.

An instinct to protect ourselves by not saying our biggest truths yet. What’s the most motivating to a man? Being direct about what’s true for you? That it’s not only motivating, it makes you really attractive. Authenticity, [00:17:00] self confidence and authenticity. Two most attractive qualities in a woman not to wanna bet her, to wanna take care of her.

We have it so backwards, Melissa. It’s heartbreaking, but it starts with something that’s not personal at all. We have instincts. We have human instincts. We have instincts ha having to do with our gender hormones. We have instincts having to do with us being predator and prey and being herd animals and pack animals.

We even have instincts we share with trees and bugs and grasses and beetles. We have extremely primitive instincts and they’re every cell of our body. And if we don’t access our other nervous system, if we have just purely limbic nervous system and fight flight and freeze reactions, if we. Don’t even know that we’re [00:18:00] behaving instinctually.

We’re unaware that we’re having an instinctive response. Like that fear that we have when they’re not connected to us, that we’re gonna die. He’s not connected to me. Or if we don’t have a strong connection, he’ll use his strength against me and he’s so much stronger than I’m Right. So all these things that are happening, we even might think that we’re crazy like that.

The pillow talks to us. What? And it’s not easy. It’s not hard to have a woman think she’s crazy ’cause we’re afraid we are in the first place. ’cause we don’t understand how female gender hormones affect the brain and cause this diffuse awareness and that men have the exact opposite and they have such a hard time grasping it.

They’re saying, so see, so, so women are multi focused, we’re single focused and women are multi focused. Focus. No. No, try to imagine someone who [00:19:00] doesn’t focus at all, and then when they start to grasp that, they can see all these things. But then I have to tell them, except for when they do, you give a woman a deadline, she gets focused and you better get the hell out of her way.

She has a total personality change. There’s so many things, Melissa, I have gone on for hundreds of hours about the differences between men and women, and that’s before we even get to individually, right? Like as a woman, how much time do you spend in an open state of mind? How much time do you spend in a committed state of mind?

You’re producing a result versus you’re not producing a result. You’re available, you’re connected, you’re, you’re in a gathering state of mind, right? Versus you’re just getting this done. You’re two different people. And men don’t know who, who am I dealing with now? Which [00:20:00] we have an understanding women program that’s at least three times as long as the audio that you’ve listened to.

And it does both sides, right? If she’s in, if she’s in hunting mode, she’s gonna need this. If she’s in gathering mode, she’s gonna need this. And they’re virtually opposites. 

Melissa: Yeah. So I was chatting with some friends of mine yesterday, beautiful couple. They’ve got a beautiful relationship and I was telling ’em that I was interviewing you and you have transformed, changed their relationship, their marriage.

And he said to me, he was at the gym pumping iron and he was listening to understanding men. And he just starts crying because he’s never felt more understood in his entire life. And I’ve got full goosebumps saying this. I’m so excited for my husband to listen to it. So what you are saying, [00:21:00] it’s really juicy stuff and I feel like I’m like, before everyone gets married, everyone should do your work.

They should literally do your work before they embark on marriage. 

Alison: And even if they never wanna be married, half the population is opposite sex virtually. It affects everything. 

Melissa: Yeah. Okay. So I’ve said, I’m interviewing Alison Armstrong and all my friends and all my community was like, oh my gosh. So I’ve got a whole bunch of questions from them, and one of my friends said, okay, so we’re going about our day.

We’ve got a couple of kids we’re working at the end of the day. He makes no effort to, you know, initiate love making or make her feel special or go that extra mile. And she’s like, you never do anything for me. You don’t make me feel like a queen. You don’t make me feel special. You don’t love me, and they go on a, a big tangent.

And then he said to her, well, what do you do for me? Like, are you [00:22:00] showing up for me? Are you giving me love? Are you giving me a foot rub at nighttime? What’s happening? How can we resolve this? 

Alison: Oh boy, okay. A ay, unpacking it. So at the end of the day, because of single focus and they expended your energy that they did in their workday, they don’t have any left.

They don’t have anything left. They just wanna rest and rebuild their testosterone. And they need to do that. And I’ll give you a. There’s another piece of this that’s really important for health that I’ll go back to variations on this theme, but a woman could work just as hard, have spent testosterone that she doesn’t even have be exhausted, but her environment is talking to her about what still needs to be done, [00:23:00] and it will nag her to do it.

She can’t turn it off his, he’s focused on rest and recovery. His mind is screening out everything irrelevant, which could include his wife who wants to be made to feel special. And so there’s the beginning of the conflict. Next part of the conflict is he doesn’t know how to make her feel special. She thinks he ought to know, so she hasn’t told him, or he used to know, but she, it doesn’t work anymore and she hasn’t updated him.

And if he doesn’t know what to do, that will work every time. He’s not built to try. They’re built to conserve time and energy and resources and play to win. And if you don’t know how to win, sit on the bench. Don’t play. So when we’re really [00:24:00] clear about this, these are the things that would make me feel special.

I wrote ’em down for you. Any one of them could be done for as little as five minutes, and I would feel special. And now he’s got a loose and you might notice, keep sitting in his pocket. Okay, I got home, I’ve transitioned, I, I’ve rested, I have a little bit of energy. What could I do for five minutes? Oh, I could do that.

And then he’ll probably come and try to do it to her while she’s doing something else. Honey, I’m doing the dishes. Not a good time to rub my shoulders, but I want you to feel special. Okay, we gotta put another step in here. When would this be a good time to rub your shoulders? Would this be a good time to make you cup of tea and listen how your day was like.

But we think they’re women and they know about all these nuances and we don’t have to tell them, but we do. And then when they do them, what [00:25:00] most women will do, well finally took you long enough to do that. The end, he’ll never do it again. He, he, he needs a parade. He did something so unfamiliar, so risky.

He wasn’t sure it was gonna work even though you said it was gonna work, he’s not sure it was gonna work and you’re not happy and feeling special. Now you’re saying finally. So it clearly didn’t work. So why did we do that in the first place? You lied. I can’t, the rest of the list, I can’t trust either. If that’s what’s gonna happen, this is worthless.

Forget having it in my pocket and looking at it to do something. Because if we don’t appreciate what they did, then the to them we’re saying it was of no value, don’t do it again. And when we’re entitled to things being done, like of course he’s supposed to fill in the blank. So then we don’t appreciate it.

So they don’t do it. And then we’re pissed. [00:26:00] So it’s, we don’t get it. We don’t get how much people are refueled by appreciation. He just spent everything in his tank at work. If you want him to do something else when he gets home, start with appreciation. Like after he is at his transition time, so can hear all about that and things like that.

Understanding an online course after he is at his transition time. Then honey, thank you for working all day. Thank you for everything you provide for our family. I’d love to tell you what I got for the boys today. I think you get a big kick out of it because you made it possible. Really? What? Like you just gave him some gas that he can spend paying attention.

Because paying attention, attention costs, they gotta, it takes a lot of energy to pay attention. So appreciation gives him [00:27:00] energy and then he can pay attention. Is it making sense? 

Melissa: Oh, yes. I’m just like, this is us. You know? And it’s so interesting because something as simple as saying, thank you for making the bed.

Thank you for doing the dishes. Thank you for whatever. It is so simple. And I really make a conscious effort to say thank you. I really do. And sometimes I might forget, but I really make that conscious effort and I see a little spark within him, light up. And it’s just so simple. Two simple words. And I actually said to him a while ago, I said, you know how I thank you for things?

And sometimes he does thank me back. I said, is it okay if you thank me when I make the bed every morning? And that’s something that I like. I like just that little simple thing. And I have done a list in the past for [00:28:00] him and said, this is what I love, but I’m in a new season of my life. I’ve got two little kids.

I’m running a business. I think I need to update my list. I just need to update my list, give it to him, and thank him more. So this has been really inspiring for me to share with him. Can I give you some pointers to have it be more effective? 

Alison: Please. Okay. I, in reverse order on your list, divided into two categories.

One category would be what I need in order to, so what I need to feel safe is you lock the doors when you get home. What I need to have energy, what I need to be patient. What I need to be patient is this many hours of sleep that starts no later than this time and I’m not [00:29:00] woken up before this time. So you’re connecting the dots between what it is you need and the difference it would make.

And then your other list, we, you would think that what I love, these are things I love would connect for men, but it doesn’t actually connect for men. This is important to me, connects to men. This makes me happy and it better be true. Do not use that word if you don’t mean it. So what’s important to you and what makes you happy would be, would have more impact than what I love.

What I love isn’t the same to us then. What I really love is when a woman says that to a woman, right? It doesn’t have the same effect. They don’t speak the same language we do and, and then about the appreciation. Thank you for making the bed. Thank you [00:30:00] for doing the dishes. Yes. At least a thank you. And if there’s anything that you want to continue, like honey, thank you for doing the dishes and thank you for the way you separated the forks and the knives and the spoons and the dish drying rack.

That makes it so much easier for me to put them. Thank you for that too. Well, guess what he is gonna start doing? Now, if he doesn’t do it the next time, don’t say why didn’t you do it? But if he then remembers it a few days later and he tries it again, you separated them again. Thank you. They catch onto this stuff.

Right. So thank you for making the bed and oh my gosh, you, you put some of the pillows back on the bed. My, my husband got certified in bed making because he made the bed the way I wanted it made and he [00:31:00] put all eight pillows back on the bed in the way I wanted them to be put. I think he probably took a picture once that he could reference he, because he wanted to be certified in bed making.

And it’s one of the things I teach in our Understanding Women online course. If you wanna get a woman in bed, make it. 

Melissa: I know. I love in understanding women you say. For a man, an unmade bed is efficient. And it’s like you just get straight in. It’s like easier. You don’t have to fold it down. But for women it’s chaos.

Alison: Yeah. It makes their bedroom un not peaceful, not welcoming, not a place to go. It’s just, it’s just, uh, yeah. And some women aren’t like that and they should tell their men, I’m not like that. I don’t care. I just wanna crawl in. I’m exhausted. I don’t wanna have to move. The effing pillows like it, that word comes a lot about pillows.

I mean, with my husband, [00:32:00] he, he started getting up later than I did, which was, should have been a sign because he was such an early riser. So he would make the bed. And then how I appreciated him making the bed, besides I’d get really excited about it, is I would go in later in the evening and I’d take all the pillows off, I pulled down my covers.

I’d make it so he could just get in. I had it made all day. Now it’s, you know, I didn’t put chocolate on the pillow except for a couple times when I was cheesy. But that kind of, I am expressing support for you by doing something your way, and now I’m appreciating your support by giving you something the way you need it.

And it can be very loving 

Melissa: and playful. It doesn’t have to be stressful. It can be playful. Like my husband and I, we say. I have a preference that this tal is hung here. I know it’s really, really minute, and I’m like, okay. His preference is obviously stronger than [00:33:00] mine. Like I don’t really care where the TAL goes.

Like I don’t really mind. Sure, we can put that there. And you know, just little things like that. It really makes such a difference. So I’m gonna do these two lists and I wanna encourage everyone listening to do these two lists as well. And then how do we communicate these lists to our husbands, to our partners in a loving way without them getting defensive?

Alison: I don’t have enough time to teach that it is taught and in a, and in a list and acted out in the Queen’s code, which is fiction. It’s a channeled work. I recommend. Audiobook, I will recreate the movie that I watched as I typed as fast as I could. I typed that book in three weeks. I you cannot write a book in three weeks.

Not, not almost a hundred thousand words. Yeah. I watched a movie. I’m typed like crazy. It’s the same thing is happening with the sequel. I, I’m watching movie clips and like, [00:34:00] wow, whoa and done, and I gotta type them down. So the Queen’s code has, it teaches the language of heroes, which are the words that do connect for men.

It, it shows us the ways that we’re thinking about men that steers us wrong in the first place and has us hurt men for things that they didn’t actually do. We just thought they did them. And how to present all kinds of things that you’d like to have provided and even. Help in how do you get to the real thing that matters the most to you instead of just asking for what you think you can get, which doesn’t mean so much to you, which means there’s less appreciation in it for him, they can tell when we’re just fishing for something and we don’t really care about it, there’s so much more perceptive than even they give themselves credit for, and, and so much more sensitive, oh my gosh, sincerity.

If the words [00:35:00] and the feeling do not match, it’s ing to them. They, they’re so sensitive to what’s real. Is this real? It’s congruent. When you say you’re tired, you don’t go to bed, you tired. Must not mean the same to you. Therefore, I’m not gonna act like it’s an emergency ’cause you’re gonna stay up for two more hours anyway.

But they don’t understand what it takes for us to put our brains to bed, which is why have them. If you’re gonna listen to just the four hour version, it’s so much better than nothing. It’s why it’s still out there. But the one that’s three times as long with videos and contrasts women in an open or committed state of mind makes a much bigger difference.

There’s so much they don’t know about us and it’s not ’cause they don’t care. It’s just ’cause we think they’re a kind of woman and we think they’re, they think we’re a kind of man [00:36:00] and nobody knows that. The differences are so much bigger than that. We, we are not scattered emotionally indulgent men and they’re not very misbehaving women.

Melissa: Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we learned this in say, high school? We 

Alison: tried that. We, we tried to do it ’cause everybody was doing our workshop starting in 1995 was they were like, oh, if only I knew this, I was in high school. So we got a, like a focus group together of teenage girls and we said, what do you wanna know about boys?

All they wanted to know is how do you get the ones you like to like you? That was seriously all they wanted to know. Their hormones are so crazed off the charts with the effects of chemistry that they, they didn’t, they weren’t in the place of how do we, how do we get along? How do we communicate, how do we take care of each [00:37:00] other?

No. How do you, how do I get the one I want? Not even how I keep them by taking care of him, like no concern whatsoever. So some people who, I taught over 600 people to teach my work in various ways, and some of them bring it to. Young people ’cause they’re teachers and like substitute teachers. And if the, if the teacher doesn’t leave a curriculum, they’ll teach something they learned from me.

Stealth, stealth transformation at a young age. 

Melissa: Yes. Maybe they’re just not ready. Their hormones, they’re, they’re not ready for that yet. And it makes me think, okay, well then before you get married, it’s like you should do your course. And it should be like a prerequisite to getting married just to understand each other on a deeper level.

Like it’s transformational. And I [00:38:00] think about my children and they are learning how to be in a partnership by watching us, like we are their movie and this is their schooling. And so I’m so deeply committed to being better. And wanting to model that for my children and for myself too, but for my children.

And we have to, because that’s how they learn. And if we don’t, they will just replay how we are and then they’ll replay it and they’ll replay it and they’ll replay it. And it just gets passed down from generation to generation to generation. 

Alison: We have our instincts and we have what’s been modeled for us and, and that’s why in all of our courses, always modeling.

I’m always acting out how to have that conversation. How to do it. Yeah. It’s really important. I’m glad you’re doing that for your [00:39:00] kids. My kids are at an age where they can tell back, like, my daughter did a program, it’s self-development program, and. And when her sister was considering doing it, she said, if you do, you’ll find out that this is what mom and dad have been doing all our lives and this is how they interact with each other.

And we don’t learn what we’re told. We, we learn what we’re shown 

Melissa: a hundred percent of the time in all areas with health, with relationships, with business, with every area. Are you familiar with the work of 

Alison: Dr. Michael Bruce? The power of when? No. Okay. So this is related to why a man would come home from work and have nothing to give.

Okay. Dr. Michael Ru Bruce is a psychiatrist and it’s B-R-E-U-S and he wrote a book called The Power of When, [00:40:00] and you can go to the power of when quiz.com to see if it resonates with you. But he has distinguished. Four chronotypes that are determined genetically. There’s four different possibilities that show up in this place in our DNA and that determines when your body releases the hormones that stimulates sex, drive, hunger, alertness, sociability, sleepiness, focus, inability of focus.

I mean, stimulates all these things. And there’s four different types. And like one type is a lion and, and a lion wakes up early in the morning, usually hungry and ready to get to work, we’ll get it, get to the office before anybody else by three o’clock. [00:41:00] They cannot focus. So if you wanna brainstorm, do it after three o’clock.

’cause you can’t brainstorm with someone who’s focused. They have to have an open state of mind. Right. So. And then by eight o’clock they don’t, they don’t wanna, they can’t socialize. It’s not even, don’t wanna socialize. They don’t have the capacity to socialize. And if someone’s a lion, his Michael Bruce will tell you like the ideal lion’s schedule, which is to have sex at about 6:00 AM and which may not be the best time for his wife.

Who’s a dolphin? Dolphin is another one. But they all are about, they’re about like two hours apart. They lions and bears and wolves. Wolves are the one that at 11 o’clock at night, they’re cooking. If they really are wolves, they’d be out hunting. Right. So, and they, I have three wolves in my life. [00:42:00] My son-in-law, my future son-in-law, and my son, they all come alive at eight o’clock at night.

Like, and they, and they work, they work or study into three, four o’clock in the morning and they sleep until noon, but not ’cause they’re lazy. It’s how their hormones work. My boyfriend, my boyfriend is a bear. 50% of the population are beers between 10:00 AM and 7:00 PM He is awesome. He’s charming, caring, considerate, generous, affectionate, adorable after seven o’clock, no questions.

He can’t listen after seven o’clock. If he has to go do a social event after six o’clock, after seven o’clock, he’s gonna figure out how to get out of it as quickly as possible. He’s a different person. [00:43:00] We call it bear time. And early in the morning, he can listen, but no questions and don’t expect to remember anything and every, all of these have different characteristics and it has everything to do with health.

If you’re not sleeping at the best time for you to sleep, it’ll have a huge effect on your health. Sex has a huge effect on health, socializing, when it’s, when it feeds you, when it’s good for you, stimulates good hormones, affects health. There’s a type called a dolphin. I am a dolphin about 10% of the population or dolphin.

I wear a little dolphin earrings all the time. Remind people I am a dolphin. What does that mean? It means that my brain never fully goes to sleep. Ever. I, I look like I’m sleeping. I work all night. I wake up, I wake up in the morning. So full. It’s like I had a [00:44:00] whole day of interacting with people and I, and I, I need to get out of each.

I mean, if it’s brilliant work and I’m telling you about it, ’cause I’m passionate about the difference that it can make, it changed my life. It, when my husband found it and told me about it, he apologized until he died a couple years later. He kept apologizing. I’m so sorry. I tried to get you to go to bed when I didn’t get up.

When I did. I just thought you would have a much happier life if you did. I didn’t know you weren’t like me. 

Melissa: I love that. I find that so fascinating. I’m definitely going to do the quiz. I’ll link to it in the show notes. I’ll have to get him on the podcast. But that is so fascinating and it goes hand in hand with what you’re saying is like we’re all so different.

We’re either bears, lions, dolphins, but then men and women are so different and it is completely ignorant of us to think [00:45:00] anyone would think the way that we think or is like us. And so this is where we have to be more compassionate. We have to have more love and more kindness and more softness toward everybody because we’re not wired the same, 

Alison: including ourselves.

I mean, if you think about it, I’m sorry, I interrupted. It’s the first thing I had. I had to learn to listen to men and I had to learn to have compassion for myself 

Melissa: a hundred percent. And that makes me like. Get a little choked up because I could definitely be more compassionate to myself. I’m in a newborn season.

I’ve got a young baby. 

Alison: I know. We moved this because you were having a baby. Yes. 

Melissa: Yeah. All is well. All is well. And I’ve got a toddler, so I’m not getting a full eight hours of sleep at night. It’s this season, right. And I’m working. And you know [00:46:00] how anyone feels without good quality sleep, you are not functioning at your best.

Yeah. And so I feel like I could definitely be more compassionate to myself in this season. A suggestion, 

Alison: make a list when I get enough sleep I can be, and write down all the things that you can be when you get enough sleep. It’ll include focus, energy, joy, peace, patients. I mean, it’s a very long list of tanks that are filled by enough sleep and then add another little next list next to it when I get more than enough sleep, but not too much.

I can be, because there’s a whole other set of capacities that come online in that category. And it’s true for men as well. Men pride themselves on what they can do on too little sleep. But where it shows [00:47:00] up frankly, is in their sexuality. They need testosterone. They need to build testosterone in order to build those little soldiers at attention.

And, but they pride themselves on how much they do, on how little sleep. In our Understanding Women Online course, we talk about not enough lead in the pencil and what to do about it, and there’s so many men’s lives. I had a men yell at me across like a whole pool complex at a hotel. Allison, thank you all because he’d started sleeping morning.

He didn’t eat blue pills anymore. He was ecstatic. He just had to sleep. There’s nothing wrong with him. He just needed more sleep. 

Melissa: It’s a very basic low hanging fruit when it comes to our health, our physical health, and our mental health. And I talk about this in my book Time Magic. It is something that we can all do a bit better and prioritize more, [00:48:00] and it moves the needle significantly in all areas of our life.

But you know, people have addictions, staying up late, scrolling, social media, eating late, like all of these things that we’re addicted to. But if you just dialed in your sleep, made it a priority, cleaned it up a bit like every area of your life improves, including how you feel about yourself and your relationship.

I mean, I bang on and on about sleep and I’m in a season of breastfeeding in the nighttime, so, you know. Okay. 

Alison: I know this is totally off topic, but do you know about the video Happiest Baby on the Block? Yes. And happiest people are on the block. Do you know about those? It’s a book. Yeah, it’s a video.

Happiest Baby. On the Block is a video where the doctor demonstrates all the techniques to trigger the [00:49:00] reflex, the relaxation reflex in babies. And when my grandson was done, was born, my daughter had me watch the video and oh my gosh, it the difference that it made to know that calming reflex, that’s the one to know that I could do the six simple things just in order.

If the first one doesn’t work, go to the second. If that, no, it doesn’t do the, but by the end, I would’ve gotten to one that worked and I could do it like in less than a minute. However, wound up my grandson was, it doesn’t matter. He would be calm again, and it made me stop being afraid of him getting upset.

Because I knew he could be calmed almost instantaneously as a, as a grandmother. It had me stop walking on eggshells, like just so much more joy than getting to be with this little critter ’cause, okay. If he got upset, that could be fixed very quickly. You could just. [00:50:00] Trigger. And if you think about it from the survival of the species, if babies didn’t have a calming reflex, we would’ve gone out of existence a long time ago.

They would’ve cried. The tigers would’ve come. We would all be dead. 

Melissa: Yes, I am gonna link to the video. It’s the Five S’s to Soothe Your Baby, and it’s from Dr. Harvey who wrote The Happiest Baby on the block, and I’ll link to it so everyone can go watch it. That’s a really great idea. I’m gonna get my mom to watch it too, because he’s asleep right now and she’s downstairs with him, so yeah, it’ll be great for her to have that too.

Oh my gosh. So much 

Alison: ease and make him feel when we’re tense. Right, and so then they get disrupted more, but if you have ease about it, then they end up having ease and the happiest toddler. My daughter doesn’t like it as well, but it’s also worth it. 

Melissa: Yeah. Beautiful. I love that. I’ll link to those in the show notes as well.

I would love to know now, if you had a magic [00:51:00] wand and you could put one book in the school curriculum of every high school around the world now, besides your work, what is one other book you would choose? 

Alison: It would be The Power of Win. 

Melissa: Beautiful. 

Alison: It just would, it hits on so many things that had to do with wellbeing and his work started with what he called anxiety insomnias.

So people who couldn’t sleep because they were afraid of not being able to sleep. And as it turned out, these people ended up being dolphins. And I would wake up in the middle of the night, I’d look at the clock. I’d calculate how many hours between now and when I had to get up, so I had to get back to sleep immediately, or how was I gonna get enough sleep and then I wouldn’t be able to fall back to sleep.

Then when I found out I was a dolphin and were really sensitive to sound and light, so we’re the ones that saved the village from being trampled by elephants [00:52:00] or being caught in a wildfire because we wake up to everything. I would wake up in the middle of the night and and start to go, oh no, I’m awake.

And then I’d go, I’m a dolphin, and I’d fall right back to sleep. Beautiful. Yes. So I’m for anything that helps us understand ourselves better, understand other people, better honor ourselves than others, all things like that. Like the erotic blueprints. It’s not a book. I wouldn’t put it in schools, but I would certainly give it to every couple.

Go get your erotic. I tell all my singles, go do the quiz on erotic blueprints. And if you’re thinking about taking your clothes out for somebody, have them do the quiz too and share the information before you’re ever naked in the 

Melissa: same place. I love that. That was a game changer. That quiz for me, I’ve had Miss Jia on the podcast and I’ll link to her episode and I’ll link to the erotic blueprint quiz if anyone wants to do it.

So I love [00:53:00] that. I wanna hear about your day and your morning routine. Can you run us through like a quote unquote typical day in your life? Like do you meditate? What do you do for self-care? I’d love to hear, I know you make the bed. 

Alison: I do. And since I am traveling this season in our motor home, making the bed is really pretty simple ’cause it’s a Murphy bed and I love that.

So it’s made, but, but it didn’t take very long. You commented on my breakfast and how I ended up with that breakfast is I asked the question, what will I be happy to have eaten? And that’s how I ended up with what I ended up with. What will I be happy to have eaten? And it’s amazing you ask that question, you.

Very different answers than what should I eat or what do I want to eat? What will I be happy to have eaten? My feel good afterwards. And so I usually wake up and make my purity coffee, [00:54:00] best coffee on earth and have my dark chocolate collagen that I put in there. And I gave up stevia for L. And so it’s unsweetened and, and then I may or may not have breakfast depending, but depending on how hungry I am.

But usually what I do, and this works very well to live alone, is I will put on music, I’ll put on one of my favorite playlists, and I will sing. I will sing and sometimes dance as well. And the singing gets, it’s like a way that all that stuff that was going on in my head overnight, it gets out of me. I don’t, I, it’s much better to sing than to tell someone like about my dreams or anything like that.

Just, just sing. And the first weekend, Dan, my boyfriend, spent him a house ’cause we were long distance, so he was in the guest room. He came down in the morning [00:55:00] and I didn’t hear him ’cause he is a big man who moves very quietly. And I was singing, I was singing and baking, which is another thing that I do.

I’ll bake or I’ll wash dishes to build oxytocin. So I do things that have me be empty, have me be soothed, and I. Set alarms so that I don’t have to watch the clock, that I can do what I’m doing while I am doing it until the alarm goes off. That tells me to transition to the next thing I’m gonna do. I love that.

I, I might have 12 alarms in a day. I had one to make sure I got to you on time before this link would. Oh my gosh. That’s crazy. Whatever. But I, yeah, I set alarms so I can be present and then be notified when I need to shift to being present to something else. And right now, Dan and I [00:56:00] are apart by three 50 miles.

So we have walk and talks. So just right every day we have an hour where we’re both walking and I have my special headphones on so he doesn’t hear any noise from my environment. And, and we’ll play something. Sometimes we play the conversation game. Which is like, if you and I were playing the conversation game, one of us would say, if I could talk about anything, I would talk about this and I, I could have you talk about anything.

I’d have you talk about that and then you would tell me the same things or not talking yet, you would tell me if you could talk about anything, what you would talk about and if you could have me talk about anything, what would you have me talk about? And then once we both know both things, then we decide who’s gonna go first.

We might time the turns and when it’s your turn, you can pick something you wanted to talk about or you can pick what I wanted you to talk about. Talk. But either way, if of all the [00:57:00] things you could talk about, you would wanna say that, or I would wanna know that it creates a whole nother level of self-expression.

’cause you know the person’s interesting in what you wanted to say or, you know, this is important to them ’cause they picked it so it. It heightens the quality of our list. And it can be really fun, 

Melissa: beautiful. 

Alison: And you can have more, if you’re gonna spend a couple hours together, you can have three things each.

Melissa: I love that It’s beautiful and it’s only gonna deepen your relationship. 

Alison: Yes. And when I, my son turned 16 years old and I had made an agreement that when he turned 16 years old, I would tell him how to be good at sex. And so when we got together after his 16th birthday, we had a date. And I said, okay, conversation game.

If you could have me talk about anything, what would you have me talk about? And he said, I’d have you keep your promise. And how did the conversation go? Well, there [00:58:00] we were in a coffee shop with a brown, two brown paper napkins. And on one on one of them, I drew the, the silhouette of a woman’s body. And I numbered.

And number one was her ear. And he’s like, what am I supposed to do to her ear? I said, it starts with what you say. Yes. And so we went all the way around the body, all these sensitive parts of a woman’s body to pay attention to. And then the second was literally a crotch. So it was a leg and all the lady parts and what each lady part was and, and like, okay, so if you can find the click and go inside and find the backside of the clt, that’s called the G-spot.

So when.

This is awesome. [00:59:00] And every woman is different, so it could be shaped different. This could, these could be different sizes. This could be in one place or the other, but this is one thing you can find. They’re definitely gonna be connected and don’t, and also you need to know about the wings because the clitoris has wings in the, in Libia.

And that’s why, that’s why they’re slammed. You might blow the top of their head on because that’s actually connected to the clits. And yeah, he, he was adorable. He, I heard from a woman later that worked with him that his reputation was of being good in bed. It was, yeah, that’s, I mean, she was an older woman who managed this whole two, maybe younger people.

He was a naturalist guide in Alaska and she took me inside and said, you know, he’s known for being good in bed. 

Melissa: That is a hilarious, and I think, you know. Wouldn’t you prefer they learn it from you than from [01:00:00] porn? You know, like, which is where most men learn it from. 

Alison: Yeah. But what they’re learning, so one of my students who studied with, to teach my material, she’s actually in the Porn Hall of Fame and she did a course to teach men what women really like.

And she started with porn is misleading. It’s all about the visuals. And most of what happens in a porn movie does not actually feel good to a woman. So when you say, you know, rather than learn it from porn, they’re not gonna learn the real stuff from porn. No, exactly. Because all the good stuff’s happening internally.

And how are you, how are you gonna show that in a porn movie? So it’s, yeah. I, I loved, I love my son. I love him so much. How many children do you have? I have three. How old are they all? My son is [01:01:00] 36. My daughter, who’s my grandson’s mom, she’ll be, she’s 31 and my youngest daughter will be 29 in a couple weeks.

Melissa: So Beautiful. 

Alison: Yeah. So one’s married with a son and getting ready to make another one another’s. My daughter’s engaged and my son is doing all the things he wants to do before he is 40 years old and find his, finds his wi wife and settles down and has, has a family 

Melissa: as his whole place. Very good play. So he’s in Barcelona.

Beautiful. They must be so proud of you. 

Alison: They vary. They’re really funny. My kids, the two oldest are students of mine. They’ve done almost every course, including our horse course. My daughter started her, asked to do our workshop when she was 13. And started working for me when she was 15 and is [01:02:00] well versed in all the things that we teach.

My son’s done all the courses that he could, including our men’s course. He’s like, mom, I love your work and, and my youngest proofread the Queen’s code. I don’t, I have to find out how she feels about it now, but what she said to me about 12 years ago was, mom, the science is not good, but what you do helps people.

So it’s okay with, she’s a scientist and, and I learn a lot from scientists and they teach me a lot about, like, they’re the ones that have connected all the biological things to the behavioral things that I noticed. But yeah, my, my youngest is not my student yet. She’s very proud of me and wants to make a difference like your mom does.

Beautiful. Well, she may, who knows? Oh, I have no doubt. [01:03:00] Her determination. Oh my gosh. I’m in awe of her. 

Melissa: Beautiful. That’s so lovely. Okay, I’ve got three rapid fire questions for you now before we wrap up. Are you ready? Okay. Yep. So everything I teach is about health, wealth, and love being wildly wealthy, fabulously healthy, and bursting with love.

So I wanna know, what is one thing that we can do today for our health? Just one thing that we can start today. Listen to your body. Beautiful. What’s one thing that we can do for more wealth in our life? So more abundance in all areas. Start with gratitude with 

Alison: what you have, and I call it ethical wealth.

Create your own definition of ethical wealth. Because the ancient beliefs about wealth is all wealth was come about by. Doing something bad, hurting another person, taking advantage. Even being evil, [01:04:00] like we don’t have a concept of that. There are people who made a lot of money by doing good, being good people, doing good things.

That is not a reality. And so a lot of people are afraid to be wealthy and afraid of what people think of them for having wealth and that people will covet their wealth. I’d also recommend reading The Millionaire Next Door, which is really about 

Melissa: having, rather than displaying beautiful. I’m gonna link to that in the show notes.

I’ve written down all of the books that you’ve recommended. You’ve recommended so many good ones. So my Kindle is going to be jam packed with Allison’s recommendations. But the last Rapid fire, what can we do for more love in our life 

Alison: on our website is something called causing those loving feelings. And it, it’s my 30 year story of love and studying love and how does it [01:05:00] work and how can we actually cause ourselves to feel more love for another person, including for ourselves.

So there’s that. I also something that’s we, we believe that love is scarce. That’s why like, but I’ll never love again. That’s why I recorded causing love so that you realize you can cause all the love that you wanna cause. And then the other thing we think is scarce that affects the love space is chemistry and connection.

That we think we’re gonna have one or the other. And it’s because they have opposite causes. And for Valentine’s Day, we put chemistry and connection up on our YouTube C channel. Channel Alison Armstrong videos and on YouTube and it’s so it’s free. Something we used to charge is now free in six different segments and it teaches you the source of chemistry and connection which [01:06:00] may blow people’s mind.

It’s so primitive and, and once you know the source, you can increase or decrease, whichever you want. You can cause more or less chemistry, more or less connection, depending on how you’re being affected by it. And it’s one of the things I’m passionate about and passionate about, us being able to cause our lives, cause ourselves 

Melissa: be what we wanna be to experience what we wanna experience.

Beautiful. So generous that you put that up on YouTube, I’ll link to it. I’m definitely gonna check it out, so thank you for that. This has been so juicy and amazing and I wanna keep talking for another six hours with you, but I’ll just have to go and devour everything that you have put out there. I’m going to re-listen to understanding women.

I’m gonna listen to understanding men. I’m gonna do the Queen’s code. I’m gonna devour everything because you are the real deal. What you have created, your work, it’s just gold. And I believe [01:07:00] everyone needs this information in their ears and to embody it. So thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the research, all the wisdom, all the work.

I’m so grateful. Is there anything else that you wanna share or any last parting words of wisdom? 

Alison: Well, I would say that we have over a hundred hours of of curriculum, structured curriculum on our website. And. The program, most people I recommend starting with is called Lux, LUX, and which is the Latin for light.

And it means it stands for liberation, understanding and extraordinary relationships. And in eight hours it could, it can change your worldview. Like even relationships aren’t made up of what we thought were made up of at all. And people who think they suck at relationships find out they don’t suck at relationships.

And, and, [01:08:00] and it teaches the, something called a process of honoring. And, and the premise of it is honor yourself first or all is lost. And it teaches you how to honor yourself and then honor another person. And it, we recorded it. Five years ago, and it, I mean, we’ve been doing this, right? We’re in our 30th anniversary now, and we recorded this program that reset the foundation for everything that came before.

And because we’d seen both men and women, because contorting themselves from our education to try to honor the other person while betraying themselves. So it we’re all susceptible to this to do what works for them but doesn’t honor ourselves. And if we don’t honor ourselves, no one is modeling like we [01:09:00] were talking about.

No one is modeling. This is how to honor me. Just watch me honor me, how I honor me. And if we’re not demonstrating it, nobody’s learning it. And if we’re not figuring out how to do it, we can’t demonstrate it or articulate. 

Melissa: Absolutely. So that’s what I recommend. Start with Lux. Beautiful. Thank you. I was gonna ask you that question, so thank you for that.

Now my final question, I wanna know how I can serve you. You are helping, you are serving, you are supporting so many people all over the world. How can I and the listeners give back and serve you today? Truly, it’s 

Alison: implementation. What I do makes no difference until people implement it. And implementation takes coverage, which is why I am always thrilled about people’s stories, about what they caused in their lives by their courage.

So 

Melissa: thank 

Alison: you. 

Melissa: Yeah, [01:10:00] absolutely. I am the same. It’s, you can listen to podcasts, listen to audio books, read my books, read my podcasts, read my work. But if you are not embodying it, if you are not living it, then there’s no point. You need to embody everything that you learn and you do that so beautifully. So thank you for being here.

Thank you for sharing. This has been such a delight. I’ve loved it. Thank you so much. You’re welcome. My pleasure. Be well.

I loved this conversation and I hope you did too. And I feel really inspired to take my relationship with Nick to the next level. We’ve been together for almost 12 years and there’s always room for growth and we wanna go deeper, and I feel really inspired to take some of the things that we’ve spoken about and implement them into our relationship.

And if you loved this episode and got a lot out of it, please subscribe, follow the show, and leave me a review on Apple [01:11:00] Podcasts if you haven’t already. And I will send you my wildly wealthy guided meditation as a thank you. All you have to do is send a screenshot to Hello at Melissa Ambrosini and I will send that to you as a little thank you for taking the time to leave the review.

Now come and tell me on Instagram at Melissa Ambrosini, what you got from this episode. I wanna hear your biggest key takeaway. I love connecting with you and I love hearing from you. Every week after each episode comes out, my dms are flooded with, I loved this and this really resonated with me, so come and share with me over there.

I absolutely love connecting with you. And before I go, I just wanted to say thank you so much for being here, for wanting to be the best, the healthiest, and the happiest version of yourself, and for showing up today for you and your relationship or your future relationship. You are amazing. Now, if there is someone in your life that you can think of that would really benefit from this episode, please share it with them right now.

You can take a screenshot, share it on [01:12:00] your social media, email it to them, text it to them, do whatever you’ve got to do to get this in their ears. And until next time, don’t forget that love is sexy. Healthy is liberating, and wealthy isn’t a dirty word.

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