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What if you had a personal roadmap for how you’re meant to move through the world? A guide to your strengths, your challenges, and the unique energy you bring to every room? That’s the promise of Human Design — and today’s guest, Erin Claire Jones, has dedicated her life to helping people unlock it.

Erin is a leading voice in Human Design and the author of How Do You Choose. Her work has touched thousands around the globe, offering clarity, direction, and permission to live in alignment. In this inspiring conversation, she breaks down the five Human Design types and shows us how to weave this ancient-meets-modern system into our daily lives.

Whether you’re new to Human Design or already deep in your chart, Erin’s insights will help you embrace who you truly are and show up with more flow, ease, and purpose.

About Erin Claire Jones

Erin Claire Jones is a Human Design guide, speaker, and writer who has helped thousands of people around the world step into their highest potential. Through her teaching, workshops, and her book How Do You Choose, she translates the complex system of Human Design into practical tools that you can actually use in everyday life. Her work has been featured in major outlets and embraced by both individuals and companies seeking deeper alignment, clarity, and flow. Erin’s mission is simple yet profound: to help people understand themselves and each other so they can create lives filled with purpose and ease.

In this episode we chat about:

• Erin’s path into Human Design and what lit the spark for her (2:40)
• A behind-the-scenes look at Erin’s own design (3:28)
• Why astrology and Human Design are having a cultural moment right now (4:03)
• The five different design types and how they operate:
  • Generators (6:16) 
  • Manifesting Generators (9:36)
  • Projectors (13:37)
  • Manifestors (16:09)
  • Reflectors (17:40)
• Simple ways to start incorporating Human Design into your everyday life (20:12)
• The book Erin believes should be taught in every school (27:40)
• Erin’s grounding daily routine (29:30)

Episode resources:

• Mastering Your Mean Girl by Melissa Ambrosini (book)
• Open Wide by Melissa Ambrosini (book)
• Comparisonitis by Melissa Ambrosini (book)
• Time Magic by Melissa Ambrosini and Nick Broadhurst (book)
• Erin Claire Jones (Instagram)
• Erin Claire Jones (website)
• How Do You Choose by Erin Claire Jones (book)
• Look up your Human Design (website)
• Get your custom guide (USE CODE MELISSA)
• The Human Design Coaching Certification (USE CODE MELISSA)
• Nick Broadhurst (listen on Spotify)
• Enobe (listen on Spotify)
• The Magic of Tiny Moments by Janet Nelson (book)

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Melissa: [00:00:00] The Melissa Ambrosini Show. Welcome to the Melissa Ambrosini Show. I’m your host, Melissa bestselling author of Mastering Your Mean Girl, open, wide, comparisonitis and Time Magic, and I’m here to remind you that love is sexy, healthy is liberating, and wealthy isn’t a dirty word. Each week I’ll be getting up close and personal with thought leaders from around the globe, as well as your weekly dose of motivation so that you can create epic change in.

Your own life and become the best version of yourself possible. Are you ready? Beautiful. Beautiful. Hey, beautiful. Welcome back to the show. I’m so excited about this episode because I absolutely love human design. I’ve been obsessed with personality types, astrology and human design for so long. So I am so excited to have Erin on the show.

And for those of you that don’t know, Erin, she is one of the world’s [00:01:00] leading experts in human design. Through her coaching content and digital products, she has empowered hundreds of thousands of people to overcome their biggest obstacles and find their flow at work in love and in life. Her personalized guides have been purchased by customers in over 160 countries.

She has spoken on stages around the world, and her work has been featured in Forbes L, the Sunday Times, Vogue, allure, nylon, and so many more. And for everything that we mention in today’s episode, you can check out in the show notes, and that’s over@melissaambrosini.com slash 6 7 3. Now, without further ado, let’s dive in.

Erin, welcome to the show. I am so excited to have you here, but before we dive in, can you tell us where you’re calling from and what did you have for breakfast this morning? 

Erin: I’m so [00:02:00] happy to be here. I’m calling from the Hudson Valley in New York, just a couple hours north of New York City for breakfast this morning.

I have this new recipe I love, which is oatmeal, but it’s with grated turmeric and ginger and it’s so good and it just like is the most warming thing ever. So I had that with my toddler, my husband. 

Melissa: Beautiful. And how many kids you have? You have two girls. How old are they? 

Erin: Two girls. I have a two and an almost half year old in a couple days, and then I have an eight month old.

Oh my gosh. I know. Teeny tiny and she is teeny tiny. My two and a half year old is like 80th percentile and height and weight and my little one, she’s now 25th, but she was 10th. So cute. 

Melissa: Well, my love. How did you get into this work? Tell us, take us back. 

Erin: Okay, so I have been working with human design for 10 years now, which feels wild.

I discovered it in 2015. I was 25 years old and I was living in New York City, and I went to a gathering at a friend’s house on the Lower East Side and sat next to a stranger, and the [00:03:00] stranger asked to read my human design chart. At that time, human design was not well known. It was pretty fringe, but I was like.

Tell me everything that this weird system has to say about me. It was the most confronting, accurate reading I had ever received. And he actually ended that conversation by saying, Aaron, I think you’re meant to do this. I know it was crazy. I think you’re meant to share human design, like, and he basically invited me into study and build a business with him.

And my human design is all about being invited. And so that’s how the journey began. 

Melissa: What is your human design? 

Erin: I am a six two projector. And so it’s all about kind of opportunities coming through an invitation. So I obviously didn’t know it until that night, but when I look back at all the moments in my life, the big ones, the big opportunities, that’s how they started.

Some stranger, some person being like, Hey, you, you should do this. And it is while looking back, because as blown away as I was by human design, I don’t think I would’ve thought that it could have been a career path, you know? Or that I could build a business around it. And I think that invitation, obviously.

Spark [00:04:00] something and has led to a wild 10 year journey. 

Melissa: Why do you think things like human design and astrology are so hot right now? Oh, 

Erin: I think that it’s been so fun to watch. I think that like people are becoming increasingly intolerant of doing things in a way that just doesn’t work for them. I think human design gives us so much permission to show up to motherhood, to business, to career, to friendship relationships in a way that feels.

So authentic for us in a way, in a way that really works. And I think there’s just like this rub where people are just like, this way isn’t working anymore. I need a new way. And I will say that I expected a lot of skepticism when I started sharing human design because it’s based on our birth information.

It can feel very mystical to those that are averse to things like that. Yet it tends to like speak so deeply to people in like a way that they can’t. Deny. They’re like, I don’t wanna believe in all this birth information stuff. And yet everything you’re saying rings so true. So I think there’s also a piece that’s opening up for people that like [00:05:00] if it feels useful and it feels helpful, like maybe there’s something to it.

And I think my approach to human design has always been like, it doesn’t matter whether it’s true. What matters is that it’s useful. And so that, I think when we present it in that way, it allows us to kind of reach a much broader audience. 

Melissa: I think with both human design and astrology or any sort of personality tests or anything like that, you have to approach it with a level of openness and not this is the truth.

Exactly. You know, it’s like. Okay. They might say something and I’m like, no, that actually doesn’t resonate with me. So you can leave it. You can take what resonates and leave the rest, and you have to come into it with that perspective. 

Erin: I feel. Yeah, and I think it’s true of all things, and I also feel like people often feel so much more relaxed when I’m with them, when I’m like, I’m not trying to convince you of anything.

You know, like, listen, if it feels useful and supportive, take it If it doesn’t, let it go. And it’s been really fun for me [00:06:00] to work with so many teams and people that have historically been really averse systems like these and just be like, wow, there’s something in here that’s really useful, so let me just play with it and let me see what happens.

Because, you know, I think that it can be just such a useful tool in every area of our life. 

Melissa: Absolutely. So we have spoken about human design on the podcast a few times, and I’ll link to those other episodes in the show notes. But can you just give a quick recap of the five different designs, the percentage of the population in each of those, and just a few little characteristics.

Erin: Of course. So I’ll start with generators and so this is you. So generators are people that are boundless in their energy when they really are genuinely excited by what they’re doing. When you’re excited by what you’re doing, you light up a room, you light up your family, you light up everybody, and so it’s to everyone’s benefit that you really prioritize your own satisfaction day to day.

I’d say generators tend to be very natural [00:07:00] doers and have a lot of natural capacity, and because of that, they can struggle with boundaries. Because people can wanna be around them or gonna want them to handle everything. And so a big lesson for generators is not holding everything just because you can and really getting clear on what you’re available for and what you’re not.

And I would say, you know, generators often feel the best when they kind of fully expend their energy throughout the day. When you drop outta bed and you’re like, I am delightfully spent, I left it all on the field. That’s often what kind of allows full rest. I can imagine you’re expending a lot with two young kids right now, but you know, I often say the first thing to check in as a generator around alignment is how you feel when you go to bed.

Do you feel delightfully spent and fulfilled or do you feel kind of more restless and depleted, like there’s more to give? How does that all land with you? 

Melissa: A hundred percent. I a hundred percent. It’s interesting because you know, my son is almost six months. I feel for me creatively, there’s still more for me to give.

I love my work [00:08:00] so much and I love mothering, so I wanna do both. And it’s just a dance, like I would speak on stages every day if I could. However, there’s a caveat. I don’t wanna do it all day. I wanna like go speak on a stage and then come back to my family. You know, I wanna be like gone for an hour and then come back to my family.

Like, I want both. But in saying that. No, I don’t wanna go and be away from my children for three weeks or a week even, or even like a night. I don’t wanna do that. I’ve never had a night away from my daughter. She’s four years old and I’ve never had a night away from her because I haven’t been ready. So yeah, I want to do my work, but I don’t want to take me away from my children completely.

But I feel like I’ve got more to give in terms of my work and my creativity right now. And I’m feeling a little bit restless, and I’m feeling a bit agitated, but I’m also like, he’s not even six months yet, you know? I know, I know. [00:09:00] 

Erin: Yeah. But I, I, I love that because I do think that. That kind of like restlessness and agitation is just a really good signal for you as a generator.

You know, like for you when you’re like really on track, there’s just like a deep sense of satisfaction across every area where you’re just like, I feel so satisfied here and here. Like I’m just using it all fully. And that restlessness or frustration or agitation is often a signal that like. Something needs to change.

And it sounds like hearing you reflect, it’s like another kind of creative outlet, another way to kind of expend your energy in a way that feels deeply satisfying around work. But it’s so good to have those moments because it just kind of signals that a course correct is needed. Absolutely. Okay. Then we’ve got manifesting generators.

So this is your oldest daughter. Your daughter, and this is also your husband. And so manifesting generators have a lot of similarity here. Also, boundless in their energy when they’re excited by what they’re doing. So really prioritizing their own satisfaction and fulfillment is. So important. But what’s also really unique to manifesting generators is how multi-passionate, multi-dimensional [00:10:00] they are.

They’re not really meant to do just one thing. They’re here meant to do many things like try things on and let things go and pivot. And that might be your husband trying a lot of things on, or even your daughter be like, I’m starting this and then I’m moving to this. And, and also manifesting generators are so fast.

They can make things happen so quickly when like they really feel like a full bited yes to it. But a big lesson for them is to not expect others to move as fast or kind of like do as much as them because that often can lead to some disappointment. So I guess I’m curious, like do you notice that difference with the two of them around that kind of like, ’cause you also have a multidimensional nature in your design, but like, I’m just curious what you see in them.

Melissa: Babe, I’m not even joking. This morning in the kitchen there was a new business idea with my husband. Like, I’m not even joking. Throughout the week, there’s probably five new business ideas. And I was like, honey, honey, I know this is part of your design, but I was like, we have said that we are like gonna just like sit for a second.

But he’s like, I wanna do this [00:11:00] and I wanna do that. And he is a musician. Like that is his number one thing that he loves to do and want everyone listening to go and listen to his music. It’s Nick Broadhurst on Spotify. Go and follow him. He’s amazing. And so for him, that is his number one thing. And he’s often like, should I just do music?

And then he’s like, I can’t, like he’s an investor, he’s into crypto, he’s got multiple businesses, he’s just got his fingers in so many different pies. And when I first got with him, I thought that that was, I was like, why can’t you just do one thing? And this was before I knew human design, so this was going on 11 years ago now.

I was like, why don’t you just do one thing and follow through and go for it? Where that’s me. Like you give me a task and I will deliver the day before. Yeah, and that’s very much me, where he’s like, I’ve got 15 different businesses on the go, and that just lights him up. It doesn’t overwhelm him. Where for me, I’m like, it [00:12:00] can overwhelm me.

Just gimme a task, I’ll nail it and then I’ll move on to the next. 

Erin: That is like such an amazing example. I can’t even. Tell you, because so often generators are like, choose a thing, focus on a thing, and manifesting dinners, they’re like, why can’t you do it all like me? And so I just love that example in your home of like how different you are and how human design can be a tool to just like.

Appreciate the differences. I sat with a generator father once and he was feeling so frustrated with his teenage daughter. He was like, she’s playing lacrosse and softball and like volleyball and running track and she won’t choose just one thing. And I looked at her design and I was like, she’s a manifesting generator.

She’s doing it perfectly. So what he perceived as Scatteredness was very much like her need for variety. So it’s just so powerful to not only understand ourselves, but those we love the most. 

Melissa: Absolutely, and I have accepted that about him, and now I see it as a beautiful gift of his, and it’s a nice reminder as well for my daughter too, to not.

Try and make her just stick to one thing. Like, you know, she’s still only [00:13:00] four, but like she does gymnastics and she was doing ballet, and she’s like, I don’t wanna do ballet anymore. And a tiny bit of my heart was like, oh, but I loved dancing as a little girl and I went on to do it professionally. And I was like, do not project your stuff onto her.

I was like, okay. Like, but there was a part of me that was like, oh, I really want her to do it. And I was like, this is not about me. She is probably gonna try 15 different things in her young life, you know? And 

Erin: she might come back to it. But it is so useful. I mean, honestly for parenting, it’s so amazing.

’cause it just, you know, means that we don’t expect our kids to be anything like us, you know? And we have so many tools to let them be different. Okay, so your son, your six month old is a projector. A very willful projector, I will say. But. Projectors are very different than the rest of his little home. You know, projectors are very natural.

Leaders, guides, teachers. They’re so wise about people and so good at making others feel seen and understood. But whereas you and your daughter and your husband have this more [00:14:00] kind of consistent energy, his energy’s meant to ebb and flow, you know, where it’s like periods of energy and then needs a lot of rest and a lot of alone time.

He’s so sensitive and so, you know, one thing to be aware of with a projector son, a projector child. Is to not expect them to kind of keep up and do, do, do, do, do. But give him lots of space and time and rest. And I know we mentioned this at the beginning, but projectors often need to be invited in, which means as children and as adults, we tend to love words of affirmation.

So even like offering specific words of acknowledgement, like, I love the way that you thought about this. I love the way you did this for your sister. Often kinda unlock so much magic in projectors. 

Melissa: Beautiful. I love that so much. And also my stepson is a projector too. 

Erin: Okay. So do you notice this in him, as I know he’s obviously older than you?

Yeah, 

Melissa: a hundred percent, yeah. 

Erin: Okay. And do you feel like he feels that permission to kind of take time alone or do you feel like there’s a pressure to keep up? Because that’s a big lesson for projectors. 

Melissa: No, he really honors that time, like it was so [00:15:00] beautiful. The other day, Nick was on the phone to him and he’s like, I just got off the phone to Leo and I said, oh yeah, how is he?

He just recently turned 19. He said, oh, he’d just gotten back from the beach. He had gone to the beach, left his phone at home, and was just laying there on the sand. Oh, he might have gone to the park. The park or the beach, I can’t remember. And he was just laying there and looking up at the clouds and I thought, wow, that is such a beautiful thing.

What other, you know, 19-year-old boys have not got their head glued to their phone. He’s very independent. He fills himself up. He knows what he wants. He knows when he needs alone time, and he’s very in tune with what 

Erin: he needs, which I love. I love hearing that because projectors and I didn’t answer your first question.

Generators and manifesting generators make up about 70% of the population. Collectively, projectors are about 20%. So this means that we live in a world of a lot of doers, like a lot of go, go, go energy, which is so inspiring to be around. But as somebody who’s not [00:16:00] a consistent doer, it can be hard as a projector to be like, it’s okay to step back and take rests and like, and kind of disentangle their worth from how hard they’re working or how much they’re doing.

Okay. Then we’ve got manifesters eight to 9% of the population. These are people that are very innovative, disruptive, often, and I mean disruptive in that like they’re really meant to do things in a totally new way. They’re here to tread their own path, not walk a path that’s been walked before. They tend to value freedom.

Freedom to do what they want, when they want, how they want. They also often have this energy that operates in creative births. Where they can make so much happen so quickly and then kind of follow that up with a need to kind of pull back and be alone. They are here to initiate and make the first move, the only type that’s really here to just like follow that urge and make the first move.

The examples that I use in my book about manifesters are Maya Angelo and Gloria Stein, which I think are such amazing examples of people that really just like got things started and were kind of provocative and initiating in the best of ways. Do you know many manifesters? 

Melissa: I have [00:17:00] one person in my mind that I know, and she’s exactly that.

She does bursts like full creative bursts. We’ll get online, launch something, be so creative, and then she’ll take a month off social media and literally retreat. And she’s very disruptive. She’s in a good way. She. Dances to the beat of her own drum. So that person is definitely like a quintessential manifester.

Erin: Totally. My eight month old is a manifester and it’s just been so fun witnessing kind of these characteristics come alive in an eight month old. You know, like there’s such an intensity and such a need for freedom. And I’m like, how? How am I already seeing it? Okay. The final type is a reflector. This is just 1% of the population.

Reflectors are our collective mirrors. People that are so deeply sensitive to their environment and always kind of taking in and mirroring back the space they’re in. So this is true for everybody, but I think especially for reflectors, they have to be very ruthless about where they’re spending time and who they’re [00:18:00] spending it with because they feel it so deeply.

You probably have a part of this in your design too, but it’s, it’s true of all reflectors and reflectors are so wise. They just like see what’s not really working in a space and how things could be improved. And whenever I’m a writer reflector, I have so many questions and like, how do you see this? And what do you think about this?

Because their perspective is just so unique and so useful. And the last piece that I would share is that they’re very fluid. They’re meant to express themselves in many different ways over the course of their life, over the course of the week. And so really not putting themselves into a box, but really kind of allowing their expression to be quite vast.

Melissa: Mm. Beautiful. Our nanny, who’s been with us for. Almost Bambi’s whole life. So she came into our life when Bambi was four months old. So yeah, she’s been with us for almost four years. She is a reflector. 

Erin: No way. And how do you recognize any of those qualities in her? 

Melissa: Definitely. She needs a lot of alone time.

Like she’ll go and fill herself up [00:19:00] alone. And she very much does reflect back the environment for sure. She’s such a beautiful person to have in your space, like I don’t know whether that’s a her thing or a reflector thing, but she’s so beautiful to have in our home every day. Yeah, 

Erin: reflectors tend to feel really good to be around and you know, they can be this like kind of very non-judgmental, just like presence that is, yeah, just mirroring back what they see.

And also, I will say that what’s so cool about reflectors is because they really magnify their environment. It also means that when you’re experiencing her as being like a really beautiful energy to be around, she’s also like reflecting back your home. You know? And so it’s also a really beautiful reflection of like what you are creating and like, and, and her wanting to be there as a signal of that too.

Melissa: Yes. Yeah. ’cause I can feel that it has to be a very specific energy to be in your home every day. You know? Like you don’t want a huge energy. You don’t want someone who’s like gonna take up the entire. Space and be loud and like at seven [00:20:00] o’clock when they walk in the door, like you want a specific energy.

So she is perfect, absolutely perfect for our home. 

Erin: Oh my gosh, I love hearing that. So yes, those are the five types. 

Melissa: I love it. Thank you for that recap. So how can we bring this into our everyday lives? Because I can see how useful this information is for how we parent. How we show up in our career, how we show up in our relationships, our marriage, like understanding your design and your children’s, your partners, like your friends.

So helpful for how you navigate the world. So are there any things that we can do to bring it more into our everyday life? 

Erin: Yes, I love that. And also, I dunno if I mentioned this, if you guys wanna look up your human design, you can at human design b blueprint.com if you wanna know what type you’ve fallen.

And yeah, I love that question. You know, I know I mentioned this at the end, but. The book I wrote, the, [00:21:00] my new book is, is around how we can practically apply human design to every part of our lives because I felt like that was missing. I feel like so often people like are given this very juicy information and they don’t know what to do with it.

And so I think my orientation, my focus now is really like, how can you actually use this to make better decisions? To actually like connect more deeply with your partner to better understand your kid. So I mean, there are so many different. Directions here, but I would say it is such a useful tool in parenting because it really helps us understand how unique each of our kids are.

You know, I think we can use you as an example here, and I know we touched on this briefly, knowing that you have a manifesting generator daughter who’s meant to try out and let go of many things. So not trying to kind of box her into or make her choose one. You know, manifesting generators often really do well with options being given.

Like, do you wanna do this or this, instead of kind of an open-ended question and seeing what the visceral gut response is. So while I think that approach works for a lot of kids, that is often such a powerful one for manifesting generators. [00:22:00] Knowing that you’ve got a projector son, you know, giving him lots of space and time and like, and checking in like, do you have the energy for this?

Do you not? Like, do you need to rest? Like, and really allowing rest to just be totally okay. You know, I remember growing up with a projector father and being like mad when he went to take time alone and looking back, I’m like, God, he was honoring his design so perfectly and also offer those words of affirmation.

So I think it really helps us better understand our kids. I think on a relationship level romantically, and also with colleagues and teams, I think often a lot of friction arises simply because we don’t understand how another person works and when we really understand how different they are, it’s just like things can flow so much more easily.

Like if, I’m just gonna use you as an example with your husband, with Nick, like one very practical area is around decision making. You in your design are somebody who’s meant to make very quick in the moment decisions based on your gut feeling like it’s either full body yes, or like a no, or not yet. You know, it could become a [00:23:00] yes later, but like you don’t want have to sleep on it once, you know, once you know, you know, Nick on the other hand, might have an immediate instinct.

But he has to sleep on things. He is gotta like see if he’s still excited the next day or the day after. I’m like, when his excitement is sustained, that means that’s the green light to go. And so you can imagine how that can be a challenge if you want him to be quicker and he wants you to be more patient and like you guys are just different here.

So I’m curious, like have you noticed that difference? Do you see kind of the usefulness of that piece? 

Melissa: For sure. Yes. He will take, yeah, a couple of days to. Sit on something, let it percolate. And I’m like, no, let’s just make a decision now. Come on. Like what? What are you waiting for? So yeah, I really see that.

Erin: Yeah. So I think decision making is a really big piece. I share one story in my book about a couple that was deciding whether or not to move to New York City. And one of them was immediately clear like you, like she knew and she’s like, let’s just go. And her husband was like changing his mind every day.

And his [00:24:00] way of choosing human design was about giving himself a full month. So what she perceived as waffling was like his way of finding his clarity. And so I think it’s such an amazing tool to better understand the people closest to us. I’m like, realize that we’re just wired differently and I think it’s an amazing business building tool.

Do you use human design at all with your clients? 

Melissa: I do, and I also do it when I’m hiring. So I’ll ask what their human design is when I’m hiring different roles in the business. 

Erin: You know. Yeah, I think that so often I sit with teams and again, like people are just in the wrong world. Or like, say they’re really independent and like they have meetings all day long, so they feel like none of their independence is audited at all.

So, you know, or they’re being asked questions in really specific ways when they like, are good with open-ended questions. So. It’s so amazing to really understand how to kind of get the best out of the people closest to us. And it also comes to like building a business. Like I’ll use you as an example.

You’re somebody who’s so independent in your [00:25:00] design, and so yes, like you’re somebody that probably does well with. Support and delegation. But I can also imagine having like a lot of collaboration all the time or meetings all the time can feel like a little bit restricting. Like you need a lot of space to like be in your own flow and do your own thing, and so building a business that allows you to kind of maintain that independence instead of infringe on it.

I’m curious if you feel that and if that showed up in your. 

Melissa: Yeah, 100%. I love to kind of just get in my own. I love to close my office door and get in my own creative zone, whether that’s podcasting or working on a talk or coaching or writing a book. You know, I just love getting in that zone and not being interrupted.

And then I also love like brainstorming and collaborating too, but I very much like being in my own. 

Erin: Yeah, so I think there are so many elements of human design that can speak to this, but you know, high level, like it really lets us know again, how we can best use our energy day, day to day, how we can [00:26:00] find and create better opportunities, how we can make more aligned decisions we can trust, like how we can navigate the challenges that arise really consistently, our natural strengths, all those things.

And so I think it allows us to really kind of find our flow in every area of our life. I think one of my beliefs is human design is not meant to tell us what we can’t do, but rather how we can do that thing in a way that works for us. So it will not tell you that like you can’t be an entrepreneur or you can’t be a mother, but it will say like, okay, as a manifester mother or a generator mother or projector mother, these are some things to keep in mind or as an entrepreneur, like these are some ways that might work for you and it will be different than like a generator entrepreneur.

Melissa: Yeah. I had a friend a couple of years ago who after every social event. She would literally feel so depleted and have to go and like go into a cave for like a week after. And I was like, that is so weird. Like I get so lit up and energized from interactions with other people. That’s very much in my design [00:27:00] and I didn’t understand why she.

Had to go and like fill herself up and be alone. But she was a projector. 

Erin: Totally. I know. And like I, I just really do believe, like, it, just like it brings a new level of compassion into all of our relationships because we can perceive these things of like, why are they choosing so quickly? Why are they doing it this way?

And human design helps us realize. They’re just wired differently, you know? And they need different things than us. And so there’s not an area of our life that it doesn’t touch, but I think it is. So what my book focuses on and what kind of, what my work focuses on now is how it can apply to career relationships and parenting.

’cause those pieces often are such big questions. 

Melissa: Beautiful. I love it. Such an amazing book. And how. Awesome. Would it be if this book was in the school curriculum of every high school, around the entire world? Like imagine like before we were choosing if we wanted to go to university or what career path we wanted to go.

[00:28:00] Imagine if they sat us down, we read your book, we had to do our human design and our astrology chart, and we sat down and we’re like, okay, tell us more about us. And we went from there. Imagine if that was the case. It would be so powerful. So I truly believe that your book needs to be in the school curriculum of every high school.

What other book would you choose to be in the school curriculum if you could choose another one that’s not yours. 

Erin: Okay. I’m gonna be like so biased here. I don’t mean to like toot my husband’s torn husband’s horn, but like he wrote a book called The Magic of Tiny Moments. It’s an Ottawa original, but why I think this book needs to be in the school curriculum is because the book is basically around how to kind of build and cultivate better relationships.

And how to kind of build and earn trust with the people closest to us. And I just can’t tell you how much my friendships change and how much my relationships with my parents change by reading his book. Because like I think that we often don’t take the time to like look at these social dynamics and unpack [00:29:00] them and think about the ways that we are maybe kind of like.

Losing trust with the people that we love or the ways that we’re earning it. And so his book was so profound for me and helping me just be more intentional around my connections and like, I just feel like especially in the world that we live in right now, feeling deeply connected to people is so, so important.

So like it kind of breaks it down how to actually do it. 

Melissa: Wow. Awesome. Well, I’ll link to that in the show notes. I definitely want to listen to that. Thank you for sharing that. That sounds awesome. Now I’d love to hear about how your day looks. Can you talk us through a quote unquote typical day in your life?

Erin: Oh my gosh. Well, you know, I would say I just came off of the book launch so things are calming down slightly, but life is crazy with two little ones at this moment in time. Like I, I wish, you know, when before my second daughter was born, I was like getting about five 30. I had like an hour and a half before my eldest woke up.

That is no longer my life. So I usually am up at five 30 with light. [00:30:00] Eight month old has let me know she’s ready. And we usually spend about an hour in my bed just hanging out and like, honestly, I meditate holding her as she reads. And we just hang together until my oldest one is up. And then we have breakfast, breakfast as a family.

And then I take my little one to school, little Montessori school and go work at a coffee. And then I come back and have lunch and then work in the afternoon. This is Monday through Thursday. And then we have dinner and time with our family for about three hours. And then I spend time with my husband. So that’s kind of the journey that we’re on right now.

And then Friday through the Sunday is just like, you know, chaos in the best way. Gymnastics, bread class, like all the things you know. So I am, I am finding my flow. It is interesting ’cause I’m somebody who loves having like. Long periods where I can just go deeply into something. I think it sounds like similar to you and it’s not really the way that my life is structured right now.

And also I choose to work from home, which means like I’m not choosing and you [00:31:00] know, the most efficient life I’m choosing like interruptions all the time, but I just love it. 

Melissa: Yeah. And who looks after your eight month old when you’re working? 

Erin: So we have a nanny here with us Monday through Thursday. And so she’s there during the day and then she’s also there when my toddler comes back.

Melissa: Beautiful. I love that so much. Yes, and I think something that having children has really taught me is how to be more flexible, because your routine is always changing with children in general because. At the start, they go from three sleeps a day to two sleeps to one and like where new work changes. And so it has in the best way forced me to be more flexible and let go of control so much more.

I love organization. I love knowing when I’m doing things and. It’s just, you’ve gotta be flexible with children. You do. 

Erin: You do. And like, and also there’s so many moments where I’m like, this is how my day is going to unfold. And then it’s like, oh, we should go to the pediatrician. And then this thing came up.

And so like, it really is such a real [00:32:00] time, you know, okay, we’re like changing course. What are we gonna do? And so, you know, I think that one thing that felt important to me. You know, is not letting, and obviously I have a nanny and we have amazing support and we do work, and my husband and I are both building a business, but I think in writing the book and, and the book launch, I really didn’t want my time on the book to like, take up more time for my kids.

And so that meant that I was like working at nap time or I was working after they went to bed. So it was so hard. And also like I just couldn’t let it break into like mornings or honestly more support or evenings. So. It’s just such an interesting balance, kind of finding that, and I dunno what your experience has been as a mother, but I also have seasons.

Seasons where I need more support, less support. Like it just keeps changing. So I’m just trying to stay really connected to like where I am in each moment and like what is needed there. 

Melissa: Yeah, absolutely. And like you said, like you can, you know, put them in daycare and you can get more support or whatever it is, but like, do you actually want that?

And for me it’s like, I [00:33:00] don’t want that. Like they’re only little for. A certain amount of time, and I just wanna be there and I wanna soak that up. 

Erin: I know, I know. Yeah. It’s really, it’s such a tender time. 

Melissa: Yeah. Okay. I have three rapid fire questions for you now. Are you ready? 

Erin: Okay. I’m 

Melissa: ready. Okay. What is one thing that we can do for our health today?

Erin: Oh my gosh. For our health, I would say just go for a walk. Be outside. 

Melissa: Beautiful. What’s one thing we can do for our wealth? 

Erin: I think just being aware of and connected to where you are. You know, just knowing your numbers as much as you can. I think it’s easy to avoid it at times, but I think being as aware as you can, 

Melissa: love that.

And what’s one thing we can do for more love in our life? 

Erin: Oh, this is so what my husband’s book is about, but I would say like turn towards all the moments for connection. You see when somebody’s bidding for connection, whether it’s a stranger at a coffee shop, or your partner or your kid, turn it towards them.

Melissa: It’s very easy to [00:34:00] kind of stay in our head and go, I can’t be bothered. I don’t wanna have the conversation with the Uber driver, or whatever it is. But that’s a really beautiful reminder to turn toward connection ’cause everyone wants love and connection. 

Erin: Yeah, and I think, and honestly, what’s been so fun having young kids is like they’re bidding for connection all the time.

So again, kind of understanding this has been really helpful because like the turning away is a way that we keep losing trust, you know? So we’re turning towards them. We’re earning trust every single time, and we can do that in every relationship. Again, my husband’s the one who wrote this. I’m just repeating what I learned from him.

But it really, you start to see throughout the day all the bids for connection that everyone around you is making and how you can engage with them more thoughtfully. 

Melissa: Yes, absolutely. This has been so amazing. Is there anything else that you wanna share with us or any last parting words of wisdom? 

Erin: Hmm. I guess I would just say that, you know, whether or not you choose to dive deeper into [00:35:00] cubit design, it just offers us the most powerful reminder that we are all wired so differently.

Whether it’s how you show up as a mother, or in business or at home, or any of the things. And so really just considering whether there are any areas where you’re trying to be like others or expecting others to be like you and how you might kinda step back. Just consider how different you might be. 

Melissa: Mm. I love that.

Now I’m gonna link to your incredible book in the show notes, and you have a special offer for us. 

Erin: Yes. So the book is called How Do You Choose? And we also are offered a discount on our custom guides and courses. That’s all@humandesignblueprint.com. And the discount code is Melissa, 

Melissa: and I’ll link to that again in the show notes.

I wanna encourage you all to. Go and check out Erin’s work. Follow her on Instagram, read her book, go and devour everything that she shares because understanding human design is. A game changer. Do your children’s design. It’s amazing. I absolutely love it. Thank you for sharing. You are helping, you are serving and you are supporting [00:36:00] so many people.

So how can I and the listeners give back and serve you today? 

Erin: Hmm. Honestly, my biggest hope is if you get the book, I would encourage you gifting it to somebody in your life because the book is meant to be a tool that you could use in any. At any crossroads, when you’re struggling with a decision or can’t understand your partner, you can open up and be like, oh, this is how I meant to do things.

So I would encourage you to gift it to somebody who’s struggling or add a decision point because it is such an amazing tool to help them move through that. 

Melissa: Mm, yes. I love that so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for being here for the work that you do. This has been such a delight and so much fun.

Thank you for being here. 

Erin: Thank you so much.

Melissa: I hope you got so much out of this episode. I sure did, and feel so inspired to look at my children’s charts more. I’m gonna definitely go and dive into that and look at how I can support them on this journey. [00:37:00] And if you love this conversation, please subscribe to the show and leave me a review on Apple Podcast because that means that we can inspire and educate even more people together.

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