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Are there foods that can combat — and even reverse — the effects of aging?

According to science, the answer is a resounding yes. And in this hugely eye-opening episode, Dr. Michael Greger returns to share groundbreaking insights on how nutrition can help you not just age gracefully, but thrive as you grow older.

Back for his third appearance on the show, Dr. Greger is one of my all-time favorite experts in nutrition. His ability to uncover groundbreaking evidence and explain the health benefits of different foods in such a clear, simple way is truly unmatched.

Tune in to discover: the top foods to slow aging, how your lifestyle today impacts your longevity down the track, the surprising food group to add to your diet for a longer life, why many people struggle to break free from their unhealthy habits, how cutting back on alcohol and sodium can improve your health as you age, the best ways to support your body’s natural detox processes, and the vital role your lymphatic system plays in helping you live healthier for longer.

So if you want to avoid the common illnesses of aging, look and feel decades younger than you are, and take advantage of the incredible longevity hacks hiding inside your kitchen, then press play now… this one’s for you.

About Dr. Michael Greger, M.D.

A founding member and Fellow of the American College of Lifestyle Medicine, Michael Greger, M.D., is a physician and internationally recognized speaker on nutrition. His science-based nonprofit, NutritionFacts.org, offers a free online portal hosting more than 2,000 videos and articles on myriad health topics. Dr. Greger is a sought-after lecturer and has presented at the Conference on World Affairs and the World Bank, testified before Congress, and was invited as an expert witness in Oprah Winfrey’s defense in the infamous “meat defamation” trial. 

A graduate of Cornell University School of Agriculture and Tufts University School of Medicine. Dr. Greger is also an acclaimed author. How Not to Die, The How Not to Die Cookbook, How Not to Diet, and How Not to Age became instant New York Times Best Sellers. More than a million copies of How Not to Die have been sold. All proceeds Dr. Greger receives from the sales of his books and speaking honoraria are donated directly to charity.

In this episode we chat about:

  • The best foods to slow down the aging process (03:51)
  • How your diet, exercise and stress levels play a major role in your longevity (05:46)
  • The surprising food group that can have a drastic impact your life span (08:07)
  • Why so many people slip back into unhealthy habits and the crucial importance of valuing your health every day (9:24)
  • How cutting down on alcohol and sodium can lead to a healthier, longer life (17:31)
  • The secrets to supporting your body’s natural detox systems for optimal health (18:39)
  • How stimulating your lymphatic system can boost your wellbeing — and the easy 2-minute technique you can try at home (20:01)
  • How much power do we truly have over our health destiny and longevity? (21:25)
  • The two books he believes should be essential reading in schools everywhere (22:48)

Episode resources:

  • SheLaunch (join here)
  • Mastering Your Mean Girl by Melissa Ambrosini (book)
  • Open Wide by Melissa Ambrosini (book)
  • Comparisonitis by Melissa Ambrosini (book)
  • Time Magic by Melissa Ambrosini and Nick Broadhurst (book)
  • How Not To Die & The Foods That Make Us Live Longer with Dr. Michael Greger (podcast)
  • Boosting Your Immune System & Staying Virus Free During a Pandemic with Dr. Michael Greger (podcast)
  • Nutrition Facts (website)
  • Dr. Michael Greger (Instagram)
  • How Not to Age: The Scientific Approach to Getting Healthier as You Get Older by Michael Greger (book)
  • How Not to Die: Discover the Foods Scientifically Proven to Prevent and Reverse Disease by Michael Greger M.D. FACLM (book)
  • The How Not to Die Cookbook: Over 100 Recipes to Help Prevent and Reverse Disease by Michael Greger M.D. FACLM(book)
  • How Not to Diet: The Groundbreaking Science of Healthy, Permanent Weight Loss by Michael Greger M.D. FACLM (book)
  • Autobiography: The Story of My Experiments with Truth by Mohandas Gandhi (book)
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Melissa: [00:00:00] In episode 611 with Dr. Michael Greger, we are talking all about his latest book, How Not to Age. You’re going to want to get your pen and paper for this one. Let’s dive in. Welcome to the Melissa Ambrosini Show. I’m your host, Melissa, best selling author of Mastering Your Mean Girl, Open Wide, Comparisonitis, And I’m here to remind you that love is sexy, healthy is liberating, and wealthy isn’t a dirty word.

Each week I’ll be getting up close and personal with thought leaders from around the globe, as well as your weekly dose of motivation so that you can create epic change in your own life and become the best version of yourself possible. Are you ready beautiful? Hey, beautiful. And welcome back to the show.

I’m so excited about this episode because this is the third time Dr. Michael Greger has been on the show. And I absolutely love him, which [00:01:00] is why I keep getting him back on. Now he was on episode two, four, one, how not to die. And the foods that make us live longer and episode three, four, three, boosting your immune system and staying virus free during a pandemic.

That was obviously during COVID. And today I’m going to talk about his latest book, how not to age. And for those of you that have never heard of Dr. Michael Greger, he is a founding member and fellow of the American college of lifestyle medicine. He is a physician and internationally recognized speaker on nutrition.

His science based non profit nutritionfacts. org offers a free online portal hosting more than 2, 000 videos and articles on so many different health topics. You can literally type in anything and it will come up. Now he is also a sought after lecturer and has presented at the conference on world affairs and the world bank testified before Congress and was invited as an expert witness in Oprah’s defense in the infamous meat defamation trial.

He’s [00:02:00] also an author, like I mentioned before, of How Not To Die. The How Not To Die cookbook, which I’ve also got, it’s so good. Oh my gosh, the brownie recipe in there. Mmm. Yum, yum, yum. How Not To Diet and How Not To Age. And they all became instant New York Times bestsellers, which is pretty amazing. And more than a million copies of How Not To Die have been sold.

It is such a good book. It is a brick, but it is so good. Everyone should read this. Another thing that I love about this man is that all proceeds that he receives from the sales of his books and speaking gigs are directly donated to charity, which is just so amazing. And for everything that we mentioned in today’s episode, head to melissaambrosini.

com forward slash 611 for the show notes. Now, I only had him for 30 minutes, so this is a quicker episode, but I just love him so much. And I really wanted him to share a bit about how not to age because it’s so important. So I hope you get a lot out of this episode. Let’s dive in.[00:03:00] 

Michael, welcome back to the show. I’m so excited to have you here for the third time. But before we dive in, can you tell us what you had for breakfast this morning? Thanks 

Dr. Michael Greger: What I have for breakfast this morning is my morning time kind of chocolate covered cherry sensation with oat groats with canned water packed tart cherries, cocoa powder, Syrian pumpkin seeds, the dark pumpkin seeds, which I just discovered, walnuts, ground flax seeds, wheat germ, freeze dried strawberry powder, freeze dried cranberry powder.

Oh, and chocolate balsamic 

Melissa: vinegar. Whoa. Chocolate balsamic vinegar. Whoa, that sounds so delicious. It is delicious. I’m coming to your place for breakfast. That sounds amazing. Anytime. You’re welcome. Anytime. Well, I’m so excited to have you back on. You are a wealth of knowledge. I love the work that you’re doing, but I want to talk today about your book, [00:04:00] How Not to Age, because last time we spoke about.

Viruses, and the time before that we spoke about how not to die, but I want to talk about how not to age. So your book, it outlines specific dietary and lifestyle choices that can slow down the aging process. So what are the most surprising findings that you discovered while researching for this book?

I’d love to hear. 

Dr. Michael Greger: People don’t understand that I learned just as much writing these books as anyone gets reading these books. I wasn’t taught about any of this in medical school, in fact, entire fields of study weren’t even discovered, like microRNAs, I have an old chapter on that, it wasn’t even discovered by the time I finished my medical training.

So. So many surprises, so many things I went in thinking one way and turns out it wasn’t. So the exercise chapter was super surprising, the sleep chapter, red wine, resveratrol, NAD supplements, vitamin D, protein restriction, micro RNAs, fish, the list goes on and on. All sorts of, you know, I thought it would be one way and it came out the other way.

Melissa: Yeah, so [00:05:00] what are the things that we can do today to slow down that aging process? What can we start to do? 

Dr. Michael Greger: Well, based on studies of identical twins, only about 25 percent of the difference in lifespan between people is due to genetics. So for what we can do over the majority of which we may have some control, we can look to the blue zones, these areas of exceptional longevity around the world, where more than a hundred dietary surveys suggest we should center our diets around whole plant foods.

So we’re minimizing processed food, meat, dairy, sugar, eggs, salt, while maximizing fruits and vegetables, whole grains, legumes like beans, split peas, chickpeas, and lentils. Nuts and seeds, mushrooms, herbs and spices, basically real food that grows out of the ground. These are our healthiest choice. 

Melissa: Yes, absolutely.

Okay, cool. So besides the food, talk to me about the sleep. Talk to me about the exercise. Like what else can we be doing to slow down that aging process? 

Dr. Michael Greger: Yeah, so according to the Global Burden of Disease Study, the largest study of disease risk factors in history, the number [00:06:00] one cause of death. Both in the United States and around the world is our diet.

So the most important thing we can do is what we put at the end of our forks every day. But there are other critical lifestyle factors. Not smoking would be number two, not being obese, regular exercise, and a healthy diet. Those are really the most important things we can do. Cause and effect relationship between sleep and longevity is actually quite uncertain.

Stress is associated. With lifestyle behaviors that increase mortality, but stress itself does not appear to be an independent shortener of lifespan and same thing with the social isolation and loneliness. Yes, they’re associated with higher mortality rates, but it’s because. Of the detrimental effects of social disconnection on substance abuse, alcohol, tobacco, on eating less healthy, that kind of thing.

And so as long as we’re able to maintain healthy habits, we can be stressed. We can be lonely. We should be able to maintain our health. 

Melissa: Yeah, absolutely. [00:07:00] And I found it super interesting what you said about stress, because I’ve always thought that stress was just so bad for you and so aging, but that’s really fascinating.

Dr. Michael Greger: It’s because stress increases substance abuse, alcohol, tobacco, illicit drugs, but a healthier diet appears to trump stress for cardiovascular risk. And I talk about this kind of natural historical experiment in that stress chapter, where if you look at what happened to. Cardiovascular mortality during Nazi occupation in Western Europe, during World War II, you cannot think of a more stressful time than being on Nazi occupation.

But of course, what the occupying forces did was took all the livestock and people had to basically eat out of their gardens and eat the grains, barley that we used to feed the livestock, but they weren’t there anymore. And so what happened to cardiovascular disease death rates? Did it skyrocket up during all the stress?

No, dropped precipitously down [00:08:00] because all of a sudden people were eating healthier, which shows how what we eat can trump some of the other things going around us. 

Melissa: So would you recommend that if you want to slow that aging process, the number one thing we need to do is look at what we’re putting in our mouth?

Dr. Michael Greger: Absolutely. Yeah, and of all the things we put in our mouth, the most important thing, according to the Global Burden Disease Study, the food most associated with extending lifespan would be legumes. So beans, chickpeas, lentils, split peas. Adding legumes to our diet is the single most important thing we can do.

In terms of longevity. 

Melissa: Yes. Thank you for saying that because I eat them every day. So that’s wonderful. Fantastic. Wonderful news. So what you’re saying is it’s as simple as adding legumes to your diet is going to really slow down that aging process. And do you know what I love about this is legumes are so cheap.

You can buy them dry in bulk [00:09:00] and they are so cheap. So good. Absolutely. One of the cheapest things you can buy in a store. That’s so good. Yeah. So we buy organic ones in bulk, dry. We soak them overnight and then we cook them the next morning. I love them. My daughter loves them. They’re just so good. So we eat beans or lentils every single day and absolutely love it.

I love it. Give it up. I’m doing good. I’m doing good. 10 out of 10 for me. But what I’ve noticed is a lot of people struggle with making these long term lifestyle changes. So what particular advice do you have for those who want to implement the anti aging strategies from your book, and even what we’re speaking about now, but they find it difficult to stick to these new habits?

Dr. Michael Greger: Yeah, well, the number one reason people go back to unhealthy habits, at least in terms of the dietary realm, are social pressures. So it’s not that they don’t feel good or it’s expensive or inconvenient. It’s just that food plays such an important role in so many social [00:10:00] interactions, whether it’s at work or with family or holidays, et cetera, that it’s difficult to be the odd person out when everyone else is drinking soda and eating doughnuts.

And your coworker has a bowl of candy on their desk. It’s just like, you’re just bombarded all days with advertising for fast food, junk food, candy. We’re just surrounded by it all the time. It’s very difficult. We’re very social animals and pack animals and we don’t want to stand out. And so I think that’s the biggest thing.

It’s going to get easier as society gets healthier and healthier. Just like as soon as it became uncool to smoke, as soon as the social pressures used to be, everybody was smoking. And if you didn’t smoke, it’d be weird. And then all of a sudden we shifted where enough people stopped smoking when then all of a sudden it kind of flipped where it’s like, wow, why would you do that to yourself?

And so then it makes it so much easier to quit, right? Or so much easier to not smoke in the first place and say, and you know, hopefully we’ll get to a place where we’re [00:11:00] like, wow, why are you eating cheeseburgers every day? Don’t you want to like grow up and see your kids graduate and like, well, of course you’re going to treat yourself well.

You don’t have one body. You gotta take care of it, and so why would you smoke? Why would you not wear your seatbelt? Why would you not install smoke detectors? Hopefully it’ll come to a point. But until then, you really are swimming upstream, but it’s worth it, because these are literally life and death decisions.

Melissa: Yes, I know. And you are the product of the five most prominent people in your life and if they are eating junk food and drinking alcohol and smoking, like you’re more likely to do those things as well. My parents, they went on a really big health kick. My dad was diagnosed with prostate, just stage one. I think it was last year.

And it really catapulted him into his health journey and he’s gone back. Michael, I cannot tell you, he [00:12:00] went fully plant based. He stopped drinking alcohol. He looked 10 years younger. His skin was glowing. He was like vibrant. He lost a bunch of weight. He looked so good. He felt so good. And he did go back and I talked to him about it and I keep trying to inspire him and things like that.

I said, remember how good you felt? And he’s like, yeah. And I said, remember, you didn’t need to get up and go to the toilet so many times in the night and like, remember these? And he’s like, Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So I keep gently reminding him of how good he felt, but. It’s amazing what a diagnosis can do to really catapult you onto the health path, but we don’t want it to get to that point, do we?

Dr. Michael Greger: Right. But the irony that something like a dreaded diagnosis like cancer could actually save people’s lives if That is going to get them to eat healthier and they’re not going to die of a heart attack before the cancer even manifests. But, right, we don’t want to get to that point. The [00:13:00] problem is prevention isn’t sexy, right?

When prevention works, nothing happens, right? And so it’s just, it’s very hard to push that. It’s like, wow, today, nothing terrible happened to my health. This is cause for celebration. We just don’t think like that. And so we often don’t shore up the levees until after disaster strikes. 

Melissa: Yeah, I’m so grateful that my husband and I are both so on board and so health conscious.

I think it would be very challenging to be with someone who is not on board. And I have friends who their relationships have ended over it because one is not on board with the other. And that’s really challenging, especially when you’ve got kids and like one wants them to eat healthy and the other one doesn’t.

It’s really tricky and I’m so grateful that my husband and I are both so on board with the health and wellness side of things. And I think a big reason why is because we both had health crises. [00:14:00] So I was about 23 and he was probably 26. When we both ended up in hospital, this was like, before we got together with so many different health issues that we have both seen and felt what it’s like to not have our health.

And so for us, like, I know how good I can feel. So why would I do anything to jeopardize that? And I love feeling good. I love feeling healthy. I love feeling energetic. And if I know that those certain foods or that way of living doesn’t contribute to how I wanna feel, why would I do it? Like to me, that’s insanity.

Dr. Michael Greger: Yeah. People take their health for granted. A lot of people grow up without major illness. That direct exposure. And so, of course, as physicians, we see it every day, but you don’t realize how horrible it is to be in a hospital. Like if you’ve never been in a hospital, you have no idea. [00:15:00] So my younger patients, I say, okay, think back to when you have like a really bad head cold or something, right?

You’re just, you’re face hurts. You can’t sleep. It’s like, you just feel miserable. Okay. That. Is the common cold. That’s like the least bad thing that can happen to your health, right? And imagine how bad you felt. So imagine if something was really bad, right? Imagine how that would just take over your life and prevent you from doing the things that are important to you.

Think how much space that would take up. And so, to instill how, how incredible it is to have your health to not take for granted and do everything we can possibly do to maintain it as long as possible. 

Melissa: One hundred percent, like I write in a gratitude journal every single evening. And one of the things I always say is for my health, I am so grateful.

And even right now, as I sit here with a broken ankle, I am still so grateful for my health and I feel good. Like, it’s not like I have influenza, COVID, like they are not [00:16:00] fun to have. So I am, there’s still so much to be grateful for, but I truly think we do have to treat our body like the temple that it is.

We only get one and we need to treat it with love and respect. And I have a three and a half year old daughter, and this is something that I’ve instilled in her from the moment she was born, we talk about health and we talk about healthy foods and. How to love your body. And we talk about these things and I just think, Oh gosh, that’s such a beautiful thing to impart on her from such a young age.

I didn’t grow up with that sort of upbringing and that appreciation. Like I didn’t have an appreciation for food. I didn’t say thanks every evening when I sat down to my dinner table. Like every night we say a prayer and we give thanks to the farmers and the farmers markets. We’ve got like a beautiful organic local farmers market around the corner from us.

How good is that? Like, I don’t have to drive that far to go to an organic farmer. It’s so amazing. So there’s so much to be grateful for and we [00:17:00] want to be taking care of ourselves every single day, not waiting for the diagnosis. 

Dr. Michael Greger: But the good news is that even after a diagnosis, there’s things we can do.

We still, regardless of what we’ve been diagnosed with, maintain our health, improve our body’s ability to deal with whatever’s facing us, including whatever treatments that we’re facing. So yeah, it’s never too late to stop smoking or start moving or start eating healthier. We really do have the power.

Melissa: Yes, absolutely. What else can we do to slow the aging process that we haven’t mentioned already? Absolutely. 

Dr. Michael Greger: Oh, God, so many important things. You mentioned alcohol. It’s critically important to decrease your intake of alcohol, decrease your intake of salt. Salt is one of our leading dietary risk factors for death on planet Earth.

Excess sodium consumption. That’s something that even many healthy eaters are not considering. So I encourage people to switch from sodium salt, sodium chloride, to potassium salt, potassium chloride. [00:18:00] Probably one of the easiest things to do to extend your life. And then go through on, through the organ system, what we can do to preserve our bones, bowels, bladder circulation, hair, hearing, and hormone balance, immune function, joint health, mind and muscle, sex, life and skin, teeth, vision, dignity, and death, on through the list.

And so it’s not just about slowing the aging process in terms of longevity, but also maintaining youthful skin and preventing bone fractures and preventing joint pain and hormone balance, et cetera, et cetera. And so I wanted it to be the most comprehensive evidence based guide about what we can do to improve our lives as we get older.

Melissa: Yeah, I love it. Can you talk a little bit about detoxification, saunas and that sort of thing and the role that plays in slowing down aging? 

Dr. Michael Greger: Well, the most important thing is to not tox in the first place rather than concentrating on detoxing. The best way to detox is actually support our own body’s detoxification system.

So for example, our liver is our [00:19:00] detoxification, main detoxification organ. All the blood from our digestive tract first goes through the liver to be detoxified before it circulates throughout the rest of the body. And we can boost our detoxification enzymes by eating cruciferous vegetables. So that’s broccoli family or cabbage family vegetables like kale, collards, arugula, et cetera, actually so boosts our detoxification enzymes that you get less of a caffeine buzz drinking coffee after you’ve eaten broccoli than you would otherwise, because your body so gets rid of the caffeine that much faster.

And so you’re going to some barbecue next week, you can start eating your broccoli to rev up your detoxification enzymes. To deal with something like air pollution that maybe otherwise you can’t stay away from or you’re stuck in traffic or something. There’s things we can do to improve our body’s ability to detoxify on itself.

And then in terms of other things, I do have some videos on saunas in terms of heavy metal detoxification on nutritionfacts. org [00:20:00] that people can check out. 

Melissa: Mm hmm. Even things like dry body brushing, what are your thoughts on that? Does it even work? Apparently dry body brushing stimulates your lymphatic system.

So yeah, I was just curious. 

Dr. Michael Greger: Okay. That was the kind of theoretical basis of saying that like something like therapeutic touch or massage would be beneficial because we get the lymph flowing. But we have not seen those that really translate out into kind of clinical benefits that we can kind of measure in terms of outcomes.

The lymph system is intimately connected to our immune system. And so maybe if we get the lymph flowing, we’d be better able to fight off common upper respiratory tract infections. But there doesn’t seem to be, if you look at people who get massages and don’t. There doesn’t seem to be any difference there.

Now it was possible there’s lots of things we’re not measuring, like lymphoma rates or something. The massage literature is really disappointing in terms of clinical outcomes. I don’t know if that really translates to the body brushing. [00:21:00] Either way, I can imagine both feeling good, I guess, depending on how, I’m a big promoter of massage, therapeutic touch.

Is the brushing pleasurable or is it like too hard and hurts? I don’t know. I’ve never. 

Melissa: You don’t want to get a brush that’s too hard, but I like it. It’s kind of like a little self care, self love ritual. 

Dr. Michael Greger: Okay, I’m all in favor. Look, if it feels good and it’s not heroin, do it. 

Melissa: Exactly. Okay, cool. I love that.

Is there anything else that you want us to think about when it comes to aging? And I will link to your amazing book in the show notes, but anything else that we haven’t touched on? Oh, well, just the 

Dr. Michael Greger: good news that we have tremendous power over our health, destiny, and longevity. And the vast majority of premature death and disability is preventable with a healthy enough plant based diet and lifestyle.

And again, One needn’t make drastic changes. It’s not all or nothing, even basic common sense, lifestyle factors. Like, walking, not smoking, not being obese, more fruits and vegetables, can mean literally a decade [00:22:00] of life. And then, yes, if you want to really take that further, there’s all sorts of things we can do to tweak around the edges and optimize.

I don’t want people to get intimidated by all the stuff, it’s really the basic common sense lifestyle factors that really, the bulk of the benefit of a healthier lifestyle. 

Melissa: Yeah, I call them the low hanging fruits. Those low hanging fruits that are just so available to us, moving your body, getting outside, changing some of the things you eat.

Surrounding yourself with beautiful relationships, like all of these things, they’re all free. Well, food’s not free, but like we mentioned before, beans and lentils are very cheap. 

Dr. Michael Greger: From the healthiest foods and the cheapest foods, right? 

Melissa: Yeah, which I love. And they are all, like you mentioned at the start of this, a big part of what the Blue Zones have in common.

So I love that. Now, my friend, let’s pretend you have a magic wand and you can put one book in the school curriculum of every high school around the world. I want you to pick one of yours and one of someone else’s. [00:23:00] 

Dr. Michael Greger: Probably How Not to Die is a good intro for everybody. For mine. And then in terms of what book?

I recommend Gandhi’s autobiography. We had a powerful impact on me when I was a kid. That’d be a good read for everybody. 

Melissa: Yeah. Beautiful. I love that. Okay. Can you tell us a quick run through of what your day looks like? I’d love to hear. 

Dr. Michael Greger: Uh, get up early, work all day and go to bed. Everyone else is there in life, but do good things in the world.

Yeah, I’m on my treadmill desk, which I actually physically on now, but don’t have it turned on because I don’t want to make people nauseous with all the back and forth. Okay. I just got off of a hundred city book tour over six months. And so finally able to hunker down and get some work done. 

Melissa: Yeah, I love that.

I have a treadmill desk. I remember when I first interviewed you, you were on your treadmill desk. I’m not standing up on it right now, you know, the broken foot, but my husband, he stole it. He was like, well, you’re not going to be needing this for six weeks. So I’m going to take [00:24:00] it. And I’m like, Oh, damn it.

So now I’m sitting down, but I’m so used to standing up walking. I love it. The other day I did three hours of work, just walking like super low. It was amazing because I didn’t get time to do a workout that day, but I walked for three hours. 

Dr. Michael Greger: Yeah, super slow. Look, you’re on the phone or something like the time just passes.

You don’t even realize it. Yeah, it’s amazing. Yeah, I’m totally addicted. Yeah, me too. All right. Well, I’m looking forward to coming back for number four. 

Melissa: Yes. Well, thank you so much for being here. Quick question. How can we serve you? How can we give back to you today? You are serving so many people. You are helping so many people.

You are saving lives. 

Dr. Michael Greger: Oh, you are so sweet. You can spread the message. You can direct people to institutionfacts. org, uh, tell people to go to their local public libraries and check out some of the books and documentaries, and spread this message, this life saving, life changing message, basic lifestyle changes that can mean a [00:25:00] big difference for the health of you and your family.

Melissa: Yeah. Thank you so much for the work you do. You’re always welcome on the show. Have a beautiful rest of your day. Can’t wait. Bye.

I hope that you are inspired to take care of your health even more and to add some beans and lentils into your diet. I really hope that you’re inspired by this because I want you to live a long happy and healthy life and I want you to get all the way to 110 if that’s where you’re wanting to go and feeling great.

Yeah, I don’t want you to feel crappy and I don’t want you to have any disease, so. I really hope you got a lot out of this. I highly recommend reading How Not to Age. It’s such a good book and all of his books. And if you loved this conversation and you got a lot out of it, please follow and subscribe the show and leave me a review on Apple podcast.

If you haven’t already send me a screenshot to my Instagram at Melissa Ambrosini and I’ll send you a little thank you gift for taking the time to leave that review. [00:26:00] And please come on over to Instagram and tell me what you got from this episode. I love connecting with you and I love hearing your big key takeaways.

And before I go, I just wanted to say, thank you so much for being here, for wanting to be the best, the healthiest, and the happiest version of yourself and for showing up today for you. You rock. Now, if there’s someone in your life that you can think of that would really benefit from this episode, please share it with them right now.

You can take a screenshot, share it on your social media, email it to them, text it to them, do whatever you’ve got to do to get this in their ears. And until next time, take care. Don’t forget that love is sexy, healthy is liberating, and wealthy isn’t a dirty word.


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